Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
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blueman335
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
Series/parallel for linking PU's is part of the Jimmy Page 4-push-pull system (the neck tone pot). With both PU's in full HB mode (series) it's pretty dark, with a good boost in output. Not all that useful because of the lack of treble. But with the neck PU in coil cut (and the bridge in HB), it's a viable option.
Series parallel is also good with P-90's.
Series/parallel for linking PU's is part of the Jimmy Page 4-push-pull system (the neck tone pot). With both PU's in full HB mode (series) it's pretty dark, with a good boost in output. Not all that useful because of the lack of treble. But with the neck PU in coil cut (and the bridge in HB), it's a viable option.
Series parallel is also good with P-90's.
Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
you cant really wire your seth lovers for series/parallel. you need 4 conductor wiring to do it properly.
technically you could wire your 2 cond seths in series but it would be very noisy since the base plate and covers would be in the circuit
you cant really wire your seth lovers for series/parallel. you need 4 conductor wiring to do it properly.
technically you could wire your 2 cond seths in series but it would be very noisy since the base plate and covers would be in the circuit
leevc5
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
Will any humbuckers work in Series/parallel? I really like that option on my Telecaster.
Will any humbuckers work in Series/parallel? I really like that option on my Telecaster.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
Do you mean two HB's linked together in series (not one PU with it's own coils in series/parallel)? If so, any neck HB that can be split will work (and there are 3 lead PU's that can do coil cut too).
Do you mean two HB's linked together in series (not one PU with it's own coils in series/parallel)? If so, any neck HB that can be split will work (and there are 3 lead PU's that can do coil cut too).
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
Serial wiring is pretty useful for very dark rhythms and a different type of woman tone on leads. What I really like is a serial wiring with a phase switch - IMO way more useful than parallel wiring with phase switching - it sounds more like a cocked wah.
Serial wiring is pretty useful for very dark rhythms and a different type of woman tone on leads. What I really like is a serial wiring with a phase switch - IMO way more useful than parallel wiring with phase switching - it sounds more like a cocked wah.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
+1. Phase is much better when the PU's are in series, which is also a part of the Jimmy Page system.
+1. Phase is much better when the PU's are in series, which is also a part of the Jimmy Page system.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
Two humbuckers, interconnected in series and electrically out-of-phase, is pretty useful. PRS offered it on early production Customs, calling it "Power, Out Of Phase" but soon dropped it for no adequately explained reason.
Two humbuckers, interconnected in series and electrically out-of-phase, is pretty useful. PRS offered it on early production Customs, calling it "Power, Out Of Phase" but soon dropped it for no adequately explained reason.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
One of these days, somebody ought to write out a list of the twenty one sound - so-called Jimmy Page - wiring with descriptions or sound clips of each selection and suggestions for musical contexts in which the sounds might be of use.
My first sight of this wiring scheme was in the ol' Donald Brosnac tome, Guitar Electronics For Musicians, in connection with Schecter Guitar Research Super Rock humbuckers. No mention of Page. No credit given to any named person for devising the circuit.
Considering that, in the late Seventies, only a few pickup manufacturers even offered 4-con + shield output cable as an option, it ought to be possible to work out who really did this wiring first.
One of these days, somebody ought to write out a list of the twenty one sound - so-called Jimmy Page - wiring with descriptions or sound clips of each selection and suggestions for musical contexts in which the sounds might be of use.
My first sight of this wiring scheme was in the ol' Donald Brosnac tome, Guitar Electronics For Musicians, in connection with Schecter Guitar Research Super Rock humbuckers. No mention of Page. No credit given to any named person for devising the circuit.
Considering that, in the late Seventies, only a few pickup manufacturers even offered 4-con + shield output cable as an option, it ought to be possible to work out who really did this wiring first.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
There was a list floating around online of the 21 sounds (what push-pull combinations there were, but no suggested uses), I think it was a copy of something Gibson had printed with Jimmy Page's signature LP. I saw the list and printed it off years ago, and I believe there may be one or two more sounds that aren't included in the 21. As far as I know, the 1990's Jimmy Page LP was the first guitar by a major manufacturer to offer it, but that wiring could have been developed by someone a long time before that. Jimmy Page didn't have that wiring on his LP's during his Zeppelin years. If I remember correctly (and I may not), Gibson introduced the 500T/496R pair on that guitar, saying they were the hottest PU's they had introduced so far. Page wasn't happy about the way it sounded and stopped production. The signature guitar was later revived with more appropriate PU's, not sure what kind of PAF's.
There was a list floating around online of the 21 sounds (what push-pull combinations there were, but no suggested uses), I think it was a copy of something Gibson had printed with Jimmy Page's signature LP. I saw the list and printed it off years ago, and I believe there may be one or two more sounds that aren't included in the 21. As far as I know, the 1990's Jimmy Page LP was the first guitar by a major manufacturer to offer it, but that wiring could have been developed by someone a long time before that. Jimmy Page didn't have that wiring on his LP's during his Zeppelin years. If I remember correctly (and I may not), Gibson introduced the 500T/496R pair on that guitar, saying they were the hottest PU's they had introduced so far. Page wasn't happy about the way it sounded and stopped production. The signature guitar was later revived with more appropriate PU's, not sure what kind of PAF's.
leevc5
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
Here is a list that I have been looking at.
02 R dn == dn up neck screw coil
03 R dn == up up neck slug coil
04* T dn dn == dn bridge humbucker
05* T dn up == dn bridge dual (parallel)
06 T dn up == up bridge screw coil
07* M dn dn dn dn bridge and neck humbuckers parallel
08* M dn up dn dn bridge dual and neck humbucker parallel
09 M dn dn dn up bridge humbucker and neck screw coil parallel
10* M dn up dn up bridge screw coil and neck screw coil parallel
11* M dn dn up dn bridge and neck humbuckers parallel out of phase
12* M dn up up dn bridge dual and neck humbucker parallel out of phase
13 M dn dn up up bridge humbucker and neck slug coil parallel out of phase
14* M dn up up up bridge screw coil and neck slug coil parallel out of phase
15* == up dn dn dn bridge and neck humbuckers in series
16* == up up dn dn bridge dual and neck humbucker in series
17 == up dn dn up bridge humbucker and neck screw coil in series
18* == up up dn up bridge screw coil and neck screw coil in series
19* == up dn up dn bridge and neck humbuckers in series out of phase
20* == up up up dn bridge dual and neck humbucker in series out of phase
21 == up dn up up bridge humbucker and neck slug coil in series out of phase
Here is a list that I have been looking at.
02 R dn == dn up neck screw coil
03 R dn == up up neck slug coil
04* T dn dn == dn bridge humbucker
05* T dn up == dn bridge dual (parallel)
06 T dn up == up bridge screw coil
07* M dn dn dn dn bridge and neck humbuckers parallel
08* M dn up dn dn bridge dual and neck humbucker parallel
09 M dn dn dn up bridge humbucker and neck screw coil parallel
10* M dn up dn up bridge screw coil and neck screw coil parallel
11* M dn dn up dn bridge and neck humbuckers parallel out of phase
12* M dn up up dn bridge dual and neck humbucker parallel out of phase
13 M dn dn up up bridge humbucker and neck slug coil parallel out of phase
14* M dn up up up bridge screw coil and neck slug coil parallel out of phase
15* == up dn dn dn bridge and neck humbuckers in series
16* == up up dn dn bridge dual and neck humbucker in series
17 == up dn dn up bridge humbucker and neck screw coil in series
18* == up up dn up bridge screw coil and neck screw coil in series
19* == up dn up dn bridge and neck humbuckers in series out of phase
20* == up up up dn bridge dual and neck humbucker in series out of phase
21 == up dn up up bridge humbucker and neck slug coil in series out of phase
VinceT
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Re: Gibson Les Paul Question - series/parallel
My LP is about as modified as it can get with two humbuckers. I wrote about it in this blog post https://vincet.net/2013/11/15/guitar-stuff-deep-surgery-on-my-les-paul/
In terms of "is it worth it?" - personally, I find the middle in series, when both humbuckers are (internally) in series, is just too dark/muddy for my use (it's the one setting on the guitar that I just don't use). If either of the pickups is split or in parallel, the series middle becomes more interesting/useful.
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My LP is about as modified as it can get with two humbuckers. I wrote about it in this blog post https://vincet.net/2013/11/15/guitar-stuff-deep-surgery-on-my-les-paul/
In terms of "is it worth it?" - personally, I find the middle in series, when both humbuckers are (internally) in series, is just too dark/muddy for my use (it's the one setting on the guitar that I just don't use). If either of the pickups is split or in parallel, the series middle becomes more interesting/useful.
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