Gibson neck angles

[Wattage]

Need a change somewhere at the Gibson factory. Who the hell is letting these guitars go out with such extreme neck angles? It's consistent, not a few sneaking out by accident it appears to be a design change and not a good one. The SG's and LP's are getting ridiculous, did they move the temps from the Custom Shop over to Nashville? Seriously did they do that because these are like when they shut the CS down to get things straightened out.

Epi's have the proper angles and the real deals don't, this is not good.

 

[JeffB]

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there has been a consistency problem for YEARS, but it has got much worse in the past 2 or 3.

Go over to sweetwater.com, go into the guitar gallery and look at the DOZENS of Gibsons that have the tailpiece sky-freaking high because of this.

 

[Wattage]

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Consistency doesn't seem to be an issue now, they are all like that!

 

[Bludave]

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Well yes it is consistent..... consistently wrong!

 

[drpietrzak]

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Yes, too high save the historic line. It appears intentional.

 

[JeffB]

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Consistency doesn't seem to be an issue now, they are all like that!

LOL. I know Scott- but it used to be some that were really bad- and now they are all consistently bad. I've noticed this going on for about 7 or 8 years now. I got rid of a bunch of production Gibsons that had this issue. And people wonder why they play like crap, sound like crap, and need a new nut. I'm sure they have come up with some process that yields consistency for an lesser trained individual, butIt's bad.

I don't understand it either, I'm just freaking glad I found my Hamer when I did, cos I wouldn't bother looking at anything in the Gibson line but a Historic these days, and even in the used market I can no longer afford such an instrument.

 

[PoorMan]

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I haven't laid hands on a new Gibson since the 2008 models. There were definitely some issues then--and those were Custom Shop Guitars.

If I were to buy a new factory guitar today Gibson would not be a contender. I'd probably go with a Hamer or some other Gibsonish option.

 

[BloodRose]

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I didnt realize the neck angle was off, but have wondered why every new Gibson has the tail piece set WAY up. Used to be the hot thing was to screw them down. I looked at a couple to day and noticed what you are saying.. I played a $2600 standard today with the asym neck and all. It was so light it felt like a toy cuz of the chambering, the control cavity looked like mission control with the circuit board. there was an older fella (70s or so) in there and we were talking.. He has a 60s model he bought new and he said he can believe the costs and the shoddiness of them)

kinda ironic that Epi is still doing it right...

 

[FuseG4]

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if only epiphone had PLEK'd gibson frets and a thinner finish. Not saying gibson frets are perfect, but I feel a very positive difference with gibson, most of the time.

 

[FuseG4]

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anyways I wanna know how bad of a joint angle we're talking about. Spec on an SG per the website says 4.25°.
So in the case on an SG, for example, Is it that gibson is letting stuff go out that's way off of the 4.25 mark or is 4.25 a crappy neck angle to shoot for?

I remember the SG special I had. Stock, it came with the tailpiece way high. I couldn't lower it without the break angle being huge. The nut felt kind of high because the first 3 frets would sometimes read way sharp when fretted normally. So I guess I have experience with what we're talking about.