Gibson PAF limited edition

[esandes]

I understand your point. The Pearly, WLH, Slash, and 36th anniv aren't really PAF's. They're based on those but not really PAF's. I also believe that many PAF's didn't have alnico II but weaker alnico 5, as well as 3's and 4's. The 2 is fairly "modern" approach to get to a certain kind of tone and attack.

I don't play blues. At all. I play 80ies glamrock and heavy metal. But my attack is already quite 'bright', because of the picks I use and how i pick, so to me, a2's soften that high a bit and add a bit more fluidity in the leads so Alnico2 is not an issue for me. A5, degaussed preferably, is still my favorite but I think that wind, coil geometry, gauge, insulation, matters more.

The A5 is actually stronger than the A2. Only A3 is weaker than A2.

I also disagree with pearly and slash not being PAF. SD HBs have a solid PAF DNA. out of that list of pups I see one clear bad actor in every sense of authentic PAF.

 

[ToneFiddler]

The A5 is actually stronger than the A2. Only A3 is weaker than A2.

I also disagree with pearly and slash not being PAF. SD HBs have a solid PAF DNA. out of that list of pups I see one clear bad actor in every sense of authentic PAF.

He knows that! by "weaker A5" he didn't mean compared to the A2, but degaussed A5 or different composition than todays manufactured ones.

Well, a lot of people will agree, if you use poly (APH-1 + 2 (slash)) instead of enamel coated wire, it's not a P.A.F..

The Pearly is debatable, but i think to orpheo it's more of a sonic clone of a real P.A.F., than an actual replica.

 

[orpheo]

The A5 is actually stronger than the A2. Only A3 is weaker than A2.

I also disagree with pearly and slash not being PAF. SD HBs have a solid PAF DNA. out of that list of pups I see one clear bad actor in every sense of authentic PAF.

no, really?! OH MY. How did I miss that?

(wait, I didn't). I said that old PAF's use weaker a5's than modern ones, because of changes in metallurgy if the 1950ies versus now.

Also, the Pearly and A2Pro are NOT PAF clones or iterations of PAF's for various reasons. The biggy is that the a2pro (which is an alnico 2 Jazz), doesn't use plain enamel but poly, and the Slash-version uses formvar if memery serves.

The Pearly Gates also is not a PAF copy or iteration. It uses a couple of design specs of a PAF but makes it something uniquely its own. It never was intended as a PAF, just like the Seth is in nuanced details not a PAF, it was made to make a LP sound a certain way. It's a bit hotter than your average-spec PAF, it has a more fatty, throatier sound. If a PAF is beef tenderloin, than the Pearly Gates for sure is a ribeye, all other things considered the same.

It *is* not a PAF because it isn't made with PAF-specs. The insulation simply is not up to spec.

Does it push you into PAF-territory, sonically? Sure. But it's not a PAF.

In Seymour Duncan's lineup, I'd venture to say that only the '59 and the Antiquity are a PAF-replica. All others are derivations of a PAF.

Do I care? No. But nomenclature is important because it separates fluff and misinformation from reality.