Gibson Pickups Need ID Please

[Oldskewl808]

So I just pulled these from a Frankenstrat I got on the cheap. Pretty sure they are Gibson. They both measure 7.58 I’m not sure how to tell a bridge from a neck or what model buckers these are. Any help is appreciated.

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[metalchurch79]

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Im not sure honestly, just going by looks though, it appears the zebra pickup has a thicker magnet so it was most likely the bridge. Leastwise thats what it looks like to me.

 

[formula73]

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I don’t ever remember seeing a Gibson humbucker on a brass baseplate.

I’m interested.

 

[Discharged]

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You haven't provide a full picture of the coils. The baseplates are Gibson, but maybe the coils aren't.

I've never seen, nor knew about Gibson p'ups with double-thick ceramic magnet and a brass baseplate with a stamped Pat#.

/Peter

 

[LLL]

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I'm going with an old Gibson Dirty Fingers humbucker... possibly made in December of 1981.

EDIT - no. Just saw the Ohms reading.

 

[freefrog]

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I've seen a few "frankensteinized" PU's made with various Gibson parts but the right answer might be in the post below...


https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/i...n-tim-shaw-pickups-valid.425022/#post-9068180

 

[Oldskewl808]

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I've seen a few "frankensteinized" PU's made with various Gibson parts but the right answer might be in the post below...


https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/i...n-tim-shaw-pickups-valid.425022/#post-9068180

Hmmm sounds like maybe from that late 70s experiment timeline. The seller did say they came from a 77 SG. I had the impression his claims didn’t hold water because of the hack job he did on the guitar. Maybe he was actually right.


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[Oldskewl808]

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I am finding examples of Gibson SG “Firebrand” right around 1980 with same pickup config...

Makes sense then.


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[Oldskewl808]

Gibson Pickups Need ID Please

Well, they aren’t T-tops. With the same orientation and the lead is coming from the same spot wouldn’t that make these both the same? I mean both bridge or both neck?

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[freefrog]

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Well, they aren’t T-tops. With the same orientation and the lead is coming from the same spot wouldn’t that make these both the same? I mean both bridge or both neck?

I've not said they are T-tops... Look the slide-show here (4th pic): https://reverb.com/item/3555398-gibson-sg-standard-firebrand-1980-walnut

Regarding neck and bridge PU's, see what Cooljuk said on MLP : during the "experimental era", Gibson used the same parts for both positions but did put thicker and stronger mags in bridge transducers.

 

[DavidRavenMoon]

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The non zebra pickup looks like a Shaw humbucker. Those are the baseplates from that era. The zebra reminds me of the bridge pickup from a Victory guitar.


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[AlexR]

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I'm guessing the Velvet Brick for the bridge....

Neck is a Shaw.


But they are obviously both early 80's pickups......the ceramic mag having a build date of 12th month '81.

 

[Mincer]

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I am not sure, but I love threads like this. I am not great about IDing Gibson pickups, so I always learn a lot.

 

[freefrog]

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I'm guessing the Velvet Brick for the bridge....

Neck is a Shaw.


But they are obviously both early 80's pickups......the ceramic mag having a build date of 12th month '81.

Great, I was searching in vain this name of bridge pickup in my old brain... I have an old Gbson flyer somewhere in my crowded archives with this stuff but couldn't find it. :-/

BTW, I've not handled a Shaw for a while but my far memories suggested the presence of a "square in a circle hole" in each bobbin and I fail to see it in the pics above... I just see round holes... That's why I've not said "Shaw" at first glance with the neck PU. But as a matter of fact, there's other online pics of Shaw's with this appearance. Makes me wonder if there was several bobbin molds for Shaw's or if it's just a question of pics (or wrong memories)...

Anyway, thx Alex!

 

[Oldskewl808]

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It’s not a Velvet Brick. So far from my research I’m pretty convinced they are bridge (zebra) and neck from a SG Firebrand. Both of them same resistance but larger magnet in the zebra for more output.


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[freefrog]

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It’s not a Velvet Brick. So far from my research I’m pretty convinced they are bridge (zebra) and neck from a SG Firebrand. Both of them same resistance but larger magnet in the zebra for more output.


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As a matter of fact, the bridge unit doesn't look like this one: https://reverb.com/item/2769215-gibson-velvet-brick-zebra-humbucker

May I ask you if the holes showing the wire are just round OR if they form a circle containing a square?


EDIT - to answer to my own drivel about Shaw's, I've searched in my archives some related pics... In fact, the "squares" in the circle holes of a Shaw appear to be very subtle and require a serious zoom on the image to be seen... FWIW.

 

[Oldskewl808]

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They are just round...

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[freefrog]

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Ok, thx. For the record, below is a Tim Shaw that I've pictured a while back (DavidRavenMoon was among those who helped me to ID it in 2011. LOL. Thx again, David).