gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
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cyberpunk409
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Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
5 piece is just UNACCEPTABLE in my opinion for a Gibson Faded... i dont care how "low end" they are, they are still relatively expensive compared to other MIJ SG copies.
If we start "accepting" 5 pieces, then what's next? 5 piece LP Standards, and 7 piece LP Fadeds?
Post some pics, it might be a fake... i doubt Gibson has started using 5 piece bodies [yet].
5 piece is just UNACCEPTABLE in my opinion for a Gibson Faded... i dont care how "low end" they are, they are still relatively expensive compared to other MIJ SG copies.
If we start "accepting" 5 pieces, then what's next? 5 piece LP Standards, and 7 piece LP Fadeds?
Post some pics, it might be a fake... i doubt Gibson has started using 5 piece bodies [yet].
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
A 5 piece LP Standard would probably end up being more wood than is in a lot of them now. Is it the BFG that looks like a mahogany skeleton with a cap on the back & front? For the record, I like chambered solid-bodies, but after a certain point, it seems misleading to call it a solid-body.
Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
i'd use a 5 piece body SG no problem.... i've seen them like that... mostly you would think they would hide a 5 piece under solid paint....
my 76 LP has a ton of glue and small pieces of wood... so a modern 5 piece sg is no problem to me...
i'd use a 5 piece body SG no problem.... i've seen them like that... mostly you would think they would hide a 5 piece under solid paint....
my 76 LP has a ton of glue and small pieces of wood... so a modern 5 piece sg is no problem to me...
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
I just played a show with another band who's rhythm guitarist used an SG Faded for his back-up guitar. He bought it new from GC about a week ago and it was pretty clearly a 1-piece body.
It's weird how much variance there is on those things.
I just played a show with another band who's rhythm guitarist used an SG Faded for his back-up guitar. He bought it new from GC about a week ago and it was pretty clearly a 1-piece body.
It's weird how much variance there is on those things.
lex666
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Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
My faded SG is one of the earlier models when they were first introduced, with the cresent moon inlays. The body is a 2 peice, split right down the center. It is hidden very well. The back and face of the guitar looks absolutely perfect, like its one peice. The wood grain is matched perfectly. But if you look at the bottom near the strap button, you can see the woodgrain in 2 different patterns.
Still sounds great to me tho...
My faded SG is one of the earlier models when they were first introduced, with the cresent moon inlays. The body is a 2 peice, split right down the center. It is hidden very well. The back and face of the guitar looks absolutely perfect, like its one peice. The wood grain is matched perfectly. But if you look at the bottom near the strap button, you can see the woodgrain in 2 different patterns.
Still sounds great to me tho...
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goochbillingham
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Yea he's not the only one. I've got an '06 Gibson SG standard, Heritage cherry. 5 piece body. Its annoys when I remember it. But then I remember its by far the most resonant solid body I've heard. Whats better? 5 pieces of quality timbre? or 1 piece of s**t wood?
Anyway Gibson wood glue is about as good as you can get, they've got years of experience there.
When I first got it my dad's friend had an identical SG but a few years older. It was 2 or 1 piece. I'd say it was marginally heavier with slightly less overall resonance. But no real difference tbh. Still the greatest guitars in the world. Closely followed by Tokai.
Yea he's not the only one. I've got an '06 Gibson SG standard, Heritage cherry. 5 piece body. Its annoys when I remember it. But then I remember its by far the most resonant solid body I've heard. Whats better? 5 pieces of quality timbre? or 1 piece of s**t wood?
Anyway Gibson wood glue is about as good as you can get, they've got years of experience there.
When I first got it my dad's friend had an identical SG but a few years older. It was 2 or 1 piece. I'd say it was marginally heavier with slightly less overall resonance. But no real difference tbh. Still the greatest guitars in the world. Closely followed by Tokai.
DarkMatter
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Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
That's a great point. More pieces is not necessarily a bad thing.
That's a great point. More pieces is not necessarily a bad thing.
ItsaBass
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Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
I've seen them anywhere from 2 to 5 pieces. I owned a '12 Special Faded that was [just barely] four pieces, and it sounded ****in' awesome, as stock. I played it side by side with my stock '68 Standard, and there was practically no difference in tone, with the '12 actually sounding more clear and dynamic (i.e. BETTER) than the guitar that is worth at least ten times as much.
FWIW, to a point (I ain't talking about plywood here), multi-piece solid bodies are not a bad thing by any musical or structural criteria. It sounds no different than, and it's actually better than a one-piece body, for many reasons. That's just basic carpentry knowledge right there.
As for "unacceptable," I say that's bull. I got mine brand spanking new for $467 out the door, with a decent gig bag. If a $467, or even a $700 (full retail), guitar that sounds exactly like a vintage Gibson is "unacceptable," then I don't know what is. What the **** do you want from a brand new American-made guitar for that low of a price? And this is coming from someone who absolutely despises what the Gibson company has become, as well as someone who thinks their quality is literally the worst it's ever been. The SG Special Faded is one of the best deals out there in the world of Guitardom.
I've seen them anywhere from 2 to 5 pieces. I owned a '12 Special Faded that was [just barely] four pieces, and it sounded ****in' awesome, as stock. I played it side by side with my stock '68 Standard, and there was practically no difference in tone, with the '12 actually sounding more clear and dynamic (i.e. BETTER) than the guitar that is worth at least ten times as much.
FWIW, to a point (I ain't talking about plywood here), multi-piece solid bodies are not a bad thing by any musical or structural criteria. It sounds no different than, and it's actually better than a one-piece body, for many reasons. That's just basic carpentry knowledge right there.
As for "unacceptable," I say that's bull. I got mine brand spanking new for $467 out the door, with a decent gig bag. If a $467, or even a $700 (full retail), guitar that sounds exactly like a vintage Gibson is "unacceptable," then I don't know what is. What the **** do you want from a brand new American-made guitar for that low of a price? And this is coming from someone who absolutely despises what the Gibson company has become, as well as someone who thinks their quality is literally the worst it's ever been. The SG Special Faded is one of the best deals out there in the world of Guitardom.
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astrozombie
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It doesn't matter to me if it's one piece, 3 piece or 5 piece. if it sounds good, it IS good. I have to admit that if you gave me the choice between the same model with different construction I'd choose 1 piece.
It doesn't matter to me if it's one piece, 3 piece or 5 piece. if it sounds good, it IS good. I have to admit that if you gave me the choice between the same model with different construction I'd choose 1 piece.
astrozombie
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Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
I mean how many pieces is my gibson 333?
maple top, maple back, center block. thats 3... the neck is a different wood. is that 4? are the "wings" in the body 2 other pieces??
I mean how many pieces is my gibson 333?
maple top, maple back, center block. thats 3... the neck is a different wood. is that 4? are the "wings" in the body 2 other pieces??
Myaccount876
Amira-Maker
Re: gibson sg faded, 5 piece body?
My #1 has a 7-piece oak body. No grain filler, stained, and an extremely thin polyurethane finish.
No one has ever noticed it is more than one piece of wood. It is 3 planks of wood pancaked over 4 pieces of wood, no veneers, and not once has anyone ever noticed; in fact, people LOVED the guitar. Not by sound, not by aesthetics, and these were people who bragged about their one-piece Custom Shop ESPs.
I think I broke about all the cork-sniffer rules when making the guitar, but cork-sniffers love the guitar when they have no idea. Number of pieces means jack ****. Just match the pieces so it at least looks nice.
It reminds me of people who adore Brian May's tone, then go on saying which tonewoods are the best etc. Apparently they don't know the Red Special uses oak (that was about to be thrown out) for the center of the body, BLOCKBOARD made out of mostly cheap pine for the rest of the body, a mahogany veneer over the entire body, a mahogany neck with multiple worm holes, and an oak fretboard PAINTED black, with the body finished in Rustin's Plastic Coating. Obviously he cannot sound good because he is not using a 1 piece Honduran Mahogany body and neck with a nitrocellulose finish, along with a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard.
My #1 has a 7-piece oak body. No grain filler, stained, and an extremely thin polyurethane finish.
No one has ever noticed it is more than one piece of wood. It is 3 planks of wood pancaked over 4 pieces of wood, no veneers, and not once has anyone ever noticed; in fact, people LOVED the guitar. Not by sound, not by aesthetics, and these were people who bragged about their one-piece Custom Shop ESPs.
I think I broke about all the cork-sniffer rules when making the guitar, but cork-sniffers love the guitar when they have no idea. Number of pieces means jack ****. Just match the pieces so it at least looks nice.
It reminds me of people who adore Brian May's tone, then go on saying which tonewoods are the best etc. Apparently they don't know the Red Special uses oak (that was about to be thrown out) for the center of the body, BLOCKBOARD made out of mostly cheap pine for the rest of the body, a mahogany veneer over the entire body, a mahogany neck with multiple worm holes, and an oak fretboard PAINTED black, with the body finished in Rustin's Plastic Coating. Obviously he cannot sound good because he is not using a 1 piece Honduran Mahogany body and neck with a nitrocellulose finish, along with a Brazilian Rosewood fretboard.
