Gibson's Biggest Problem Isn't The Price

[GuitarStv]

They did that with the High Performance line right before they went bankrupt. I don't think anyone really had a problem with them, they just got caught in the Gibson dogpile

I didn't know about the HP line. Those look like pretty sweet guitars too.

 

[xxxplorer]

I used to watch him a lot. Still can appreciate some of what he says here and there... but... more and more he just comes off as a meme to me.

Most of guitar Youtube for me has gotten really stale. Ola still feels authentic. Most just come off as a sales guy for Guitar Center.

 

[Mincer]

I didn't know about the HP line. Those look like pretty sweet guitars too.

Yeah, if they had continued that line over the years, it would probably be very comparable to what the boutique shred companies are coming out with now.

 

[weepingminotaur]

Maybe it is being too attached to the 'Les Paul' name.

The other thing is that we have never lived in an age like now, where guitar manufacturing has become reliable and high quality on a mass scale and the science is more or less nailed down. So if you're an actual guitar player and not a collector, you can get a great guitar for half of what your average Gibson costs. There is no downside unless you care about aura or branding or name recognition -- aka, all the things that have 0 to do with the actual instrument. Plus, the guitarists coming up now have no connection to the vintage era -- they didn't live through it and it wasn't even their parents' generation. There is no nostalgia attached to it. So getting them to shell out more cash for a name on a headstock isn't going to work.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz II]

Another half hour blabber fest by Rhett Shull. Dreadfully boring.

He is a content creator on youtube. He is running out of ideas.
He is also resorting to click bait, to attract people, and hoping they will leave a comment, in order for that post not to die in 24hours time.

 

[Mincer]

He is a content creator on youtube. He is running out of ideas.
He is also resorting to click bait, to attract people, and hoping they will leave a comment, in order for that post not to die in 24hours time.

This seems to be the case with a lot of content creators. The market is saturated, and there is only so much to talk about before you start repeating yourself.

 

[Snake Aces]

I dig Gibson Les Paul and SG guitars quite a bit. I don't currently own a Gibby LP anymore, but if the early 2000s model I used to own ever becomes available for the right price again, I'll buy it. I miss that guitar. I'd also buy a Les Paul Voodoo if the right price came along.

I don't really have a problem with Gibson. My biggest beef is wood selection and non-SS frets. I could have a luthier put SS frets on a Gibby, but wood options are not ideal for my taste.

If I ever have money to burn, I'd have Gibson Custom Shop build me a blue swamp ash Les Paul. Outside of that and the aforementioned Les Pauls, I'll probably stick to Warmoth Regals or Orpheo six-strings. I'd rather acquire one or two more Orpheo basses first, though.

 

[Sam SG]

Id like to see more LP DCs
Honestly Ive had one Les Paul it was a 2023 LP classic. To me a LP weighs a ton has poor upper fret access and no sort arm contour. I hated that live to play upper register leads I had to do the Slash pose to reach notes. So I unloaded it and frankly never look back in regret.
Now a LP Jr DC thats a guitar I can lust over.

 

[80's_Metal]

I didn't know about the HP line. Those look like pretty sweet guitars too.

They are!

 

[Mincer]

Spending $3k on a guitar and not getting SS frets or even strap locks is a choice too many people make every day.

 

[GuitarStv]

Spending $3k on a guitar and not getting SS frets or even strap locks is a choice too many people make every day.

Honestly, no guitar over 1500$ should be cutting corners by failing to include SS frets.

 

[jeremy]

while i like ss frets, there are a group of people that do not. and some of those are the ones with deep pockets who will buy a $10k guitar

 

[Chistopher]

SS frets are for a working musician. A blues lawyer is just going to see it as non-historically accurate and will never play the thing enough to experience the difference

 

[GuitarStv]

while i like ss frets, there are a group of people that do not. and some of those are the ones with deep pockets who will buy a $10k guitar

I honestly don't understand this group of people. There is no sound difference, they just last longer and don't tarnish.

 

[jeremy]

im not sure i dont notice a subtle difference in tone. i have ss frets on some guitars, and wont get a refret with anything else going forward. the attack seems a touch different, maybe the tone is a touch spankier. for me, the benefits overshadow any small tonal difference

 

[SirJackdeFuzz II]

And he's back . . . (back pedall'ing ?)

 

[SirJackdeFuzz II]

This seems to be the case with a lot of content creators. The market is saturated, and there is only so much to talk about before you start repeating yourself.

. . . fact.