Good tool investments for working on guitars

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Some time back I went and decided that I should probably get some tools for nut-work and detailing and such.

I got on eBay and ordered like 30 bucks worth of parts.
A set of jeweller's magnifying eyeglasses w/ LED lighting, and two sets of needle files, all with various profiles (one set of really tiny files, and one slightly bigger). Like I said, I've mostly used it for nut-work. Looking really closely at the nut slots and smoothing out grooves, getting rid of tiny burrs and such. Around the same time I got a dremel rotary tool.

Well, the other day I decided that I wanted to take off the Graphtech string saver saddles off my '62RI strat and put the original bent steel ones back on. So I dug 'em outta ye olde parts box, and had a look at them up close. They weren't in BAD shape, but there was some rust, some of the saddles had some serious grooves in the top of the steel from the higher strings, some had multiple side-by-side grooves, and just about all of them had smaller grooves in the slots where the strings emerge from the trem block. The height adjustment bolts were grimy as hell, too.

I basically went about filing down the small grooves, grinding the large ones, and then smoothing and polishing the steel with the dremel, and checking it REALLY up close and personal with the jeweller's glasses all the way through. Also let the height adjustment screws sit in a few millimeters of a degreaser solvent to clean them up and get rid of the grime.

I realized that those files and those glasses, along with my dremel, are pretty much some of the cheapest, most versatile, and some of the most invaluable tools in my kit. being able to get really close to those critical points of the nut and the saddles and having learned up the info and how-to of dialing in the nut and getting the saddles to function as they are designed. That stuff, to me, is hugely important, and having the right tools makes all the difference in being able to get that stuff done right.

My next purchase in the similar vein is going to be a set of proper gauged nut files and some fret files for crowning, and such, so I can start doing my own fretwork.


You guys have anything that are basically shop favourites?
 
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Have you got any plastic sheets you could line your bathroom with? hehe.
 
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I dont use a lot of convention tools. I leveled my frets with a bit of hardwood i ran through the jointer :laugh2:. Good crowning files are essential and a good fret rocker . I dont nip my tags off so i dont need one of those, i think all i really need is more diamond files as i ****ed mine on the ss frets. For nut files i use those small files that are used for cleaning out nozzles. And i modified some wire cutters from the hardware store for cutting frets.

I would like more tools and i would love to have everything under the sun but i enjoy making do.

Hang on a minute what are we talking about? :disappoin latex sheets

Oh and i hammer my frets in with a rubber mallet, I also dont glue them in...........weeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
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Welding tip cleaners.

In my destructive teenage years, I used a triangle file with the edges ground smooth to crown frets. A flat file to level them.

A couple sets of feeler gauges are essential.
 
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When my buddy was referring his strat
He got a set of small " end nips "
The small nippers that have the cutting edges perpendicular to the handles

I then sanded the face ( working side) flush
So that they could get under the frets to lift them out

The set I got from harbor freight from
for two bucks

*(Sent from my durned phone!)*
 
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If I could have any set of tools at the moment, they would be StewMac's fret slot saws/jigs. Expensive but they would be perfect. There's also the need for a good jointer and surface planer, and then a table saw that doesn't suck. I miss industrial sized-surface planers. :(
 
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Gauged nut files are a worthwhile investment, as improperly cut nut slots are very common. Easily one of my most used and favorite shop tools.

In my destructive teenage years, I used a triangle file with the edges ground smooth to crown frets

That is what I use now, after years of using a Stew-Mac fret crowning file, and not ever being 100% happy with the results. With the triangle file, I get near perfect results. As such, the triangle file with smooth ground edges is also one of my favorite tools.

However, I can't say that I'd recommend the triangle file to someone who is only doing this as a hobby, as it may take some getting used to before you get good results.

A good vise is an indispensable tool for every shop. I have the Parrot Vise sold by Grizzly: http://www.grizzly.com/products/Parrot-Vise-/D3125. It's a great vise for guitar work, especially given the price. If I was rich, Stew Mac has a couple vises that might be better, but Frank Ford uses the Parrot vise, and that's about the best endorsement for a guitar repair tool as you can get.

And that leads me to my final favorite, highly recommended "tool": Frank Ford's website, http://www.frets.com. Mainly shows acoustic guitar repair, but a lot of the knowledge will help you with electric guitar repair as well. Frank also maintains a message board at frets.net that has some really knowledgeable folks on it, and Frank posts there as well.

There you go, good luck!
 
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Someone's going to flame me - but I like the Stew-Mac nut height gauge. I see it as capable of doing more than checking nut height if you're careful. You can set action with it as well as relief. I use it more often as a check after using a height or radius gauge.
 
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Gauged nut files are a worthwhile investment, as improperly cut nut slots are very common. Easily one of my most used and favorite shop tools.



That is what I use now, after years of using a Stew-Mac fret crowning file, and not ever being 100% happy with the results. With the triangle file, I get near perfect results. As such, the triangle file with smooth ground edges is also one of my favorite tools.

However, I can't say that I'd recommend the triangle file to someone who is only doing this as a hobby, as it may take some getting used to before you get good results.

Oddly enough - I liked using the fret file meant for larger fret wire on narrower frets - work in from each side of the flat portion.
 
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I would love to get a couple of neck radiusing beams and fret nippers as my next tool purchase. I have one bass in desperate need of a fret job and sadly my '62 Fender Jazzmaster isn't far behind. After that, finishing equipment.
 
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​Any chance of a link to those glasses?
 
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these are the ones I got: http://www.ebay.com/itm/20X-Magnifi...691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2c799a0bab

but if you search "jeweller's glasses" there are a couple of other kinds, one which looks a lot like dan erlewine's optivisor.

the ones i have, they're a bit unweidly. you can't really look through both pieces and focus on a single object (you gotta use one of the eyepieces at a time), but the advantage is it has a much higher magnification than those other ones, or even the optivisor for that matter.
 
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I have a cabinet full of tools, but the ONE tool that sees more use than anything I own is the "String Action Gauge" ruler I bought from Stewmac years ago. I use that little thing practically every day working on something.
 
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I have always wondered why nut slotting files are so darn expensive, and why you cannot find a set for regular 9-10 gauge electric strings. They have them sized for gauges that no one plays, so you end up having to piece together a set that is almost, but not quite, correct from about 3 different sources. Very annoying.
 
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The Stew-Mac radius files are a MUST. And I like the little measuring card they have--that has been indispensable.

I bought a little Xcelite screwdriver set back around 1974-75. I have used that set so many times over the years--countless times. And ditto for the Craftsman wire stripper I bought about the same era. Really well built, and money well spent.

And my most cherished tool is an old set of Diamalloy side-cutting pliers that my father gave me when I was about 16, to use for string changes. He'd sharpened them; they will still cut a piece of paper to this day. And I remember him and the sacrifices my parents made for me so I could play the guitar...every time I change strings. Precious beyond words or money.

Bill
 
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I have always wondered why nut slotting files are so darn expensive, and why you cannot find a set for regular 9-10 gauge electric strings. They have them sized for gauges that no one plays, so you end up having to piece together a set that is almost, but not quite, correct from about 3 different sources. Very annoying.

Hmm - I got a set off ebay .010 to .046. I've since learned you might want a slightly larger set - .012 for .010 for example. It allows room for the string to vibrate in the slot (Too much is not a good thing either).
 
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