Got some pedals. Now What?

mirkok1

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Suggestions please on the best way to hook these pedals up. My blackstar ht-20 head has an efx loop. Not sure what order and location to put these pedals in. below are the pedals i have.

Blackstar HT-Distx
Deltalabs Digital Delay
Boss NS-2
MXR ZW-44 Zakk Wylde Overdrive
MXR ZW-38 Zakk Wylde Chorus
Fish n Chips Eq pedal
DigiTech Bad Monkey Overdrive
 
Re: Got some pedals. Now What?

if it was me, id use no effects for a month or so until you really get a feel for your amps capabilities.
But if i had to use your rig and get it a versatile as possible for a gig tomorrow night then my 2c worth would be this:
Guitar -
Zakk OD (with the toggle switch flipped to GTOD mode) or the monkey if you cant be bothered pulling apart your zakk to get to the switch)
Chorus
amp
Delay in the loop.
I would not bother with the other pedals at all. In fact the chorus and delays are only there if those sounds are really crucial to a particular song or riff.
 
Re: Got some pedals. Now What?

If you're gonna use the EQ, use it in the loop. EQ always sounds better post-distortion.
 
Re: Got some pedals. Now What?

Suggestions please on the best way to hook these pedals up. My blackstar ht-20 head has an efx loop. Not sure what order and location to put these pedals in. below are the pedals i have.

Blackstar HT-Distx
Deltalabs Digital Delay
Boss NS-2
MXR ZW-44 Zakk Wylde Overdrive
MXR ZW-38 Zakk Wylde Chorus
Fish n Chips Eq pedal
DigiTech Bad Monkey Overdrive

Use 2 pedalboards, and patch the pedal is this order:

Pedalboard 1 (into the input of the amp)
1. DigiTech Bad Monkey Overdrive
2. MXR ZW-44 Zakk Wylde Overdrive
3. Blackstar HT-Distx

Pedalbaord 2 (into the fX loop)
1. MXR ZW-38 Zakk Wylde Chorus
2. Boss NS-2
3. Deltalabs Digital Delay

Put it anywhere: Fish n Chips Eq pedal

My reasons for this setup:
The Bad Monkey and the Zakk Wylde Overdrive can boost each other and/or the HT-Distx. I've never had much luck letting the high-gain pedal push a low-gain pedal, but low-gains pushing high-gains works great for me. It's very rare that an O/D or Dist pedal would work in an effects loop.

In my experience, putting modulation effects (your chorus pedal) in the effects loop will generate less noise than putting into the front end of an amp because now you have no preamp amplifying the noise of the pedal.

Putting the noise gate in the loop will stop the noise from the guitar, pedals, and preamp. Putting it in the front end will only stop the noise from the guitar and pedals, allowing the noise from the preamp to be heard. I put my gate in the loop and you would never know the amp is own, even at earth-shattering volumes.

Putting the delay pedal in the loop is will also generate less noise than in the front end for the same reason as the chorus pedal. The other difference is that in the loop you will be able to have high gain repeats sounds like you would expect from a delay pedal. Putting the delay pedal in front of high gain amp will cause the repeats to just be distorted and making the sound very messy, you might not even hear the repeats, just an audible mess.

Putting the noise gate before the delay is important, this will allow all your repeats to to come through, and be heard over complete silence (since the gate is muting the preamp). If you make the gate last, the delay pedals repeats will eventually become so quiet that the gate will silence them, and it will 'chop off' your sound, and may even 'stutter' your sound while the deals with the level of the repeats.

Experiment with the eq pedal, it doesnt matter where it goes, just remmeber there should be less noise if you put it in the loop.

The bad monkey is a tone sucker, consider a true-bypass mod.
 
Re: Got some pedals. Now What?

OD with the lowest gain setting -> OD with the highest gain setting-> Amp

Loop: Eq (if even needed)-> Chorus-> Delay-> NS2 (if even needed)
 
Re: Got some pedals. Now What?

For EQ it depends on what you want out of it. The most obvious is shaping the overall tone - loop. But if you place it right after your guitar, you could drop out the bass tones and boost treble tones to get a humbucker with more bite or single coil like. Paul Gilbert uses one to take an overdriven amp to a more clean sound. Can also be used as a clean boost by just raising the level and not touching the frequencies. Experiment and have fun.
 
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