Guitar additions

[Squidopusx]

Could i add another tone and volume and push pull knobs and new pickups would anyone know how hard and expensive this would be here's a link to my guitar http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Slash-AFD-Les-Paul-Special-II-Guitar-Outfit.aspx

 

[ehdwuld]

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3/8 drill bit for the holes
New pots = $5 each for good ones
Small piece of network cable wire for connections

Should be a diagram in the diagrams page

Look at you control cavity to see if you have room



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[crguti]

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I would look for stacked pots like...

 

[GuitarStv]

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Control cavity doesn't look like it is wide enough to add the controls where they normally would go on a Les Paul. Ugh. What a terrible switch location too.

 

[Squidopusx]

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Control cavity doesn't look like it is wide enough to add the controls where they normally would go on a Les Paul. Ugh. What a terrible switch location too.

Couldn't I bore out a hole for the control cavity

 

[Squidopusx]

Re: Guitar additions

3/8 drill bit for the holes
New pots = $5 each for good ones
Small piece of network cable wire for connections

Should be a diagram in the diagrams page

Look at you control cavity to see if you have room



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Could I take pots from a rundown squier strat

 

[ehdwuld]

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Could I take pots from a rundown squier strat

I wouldn't they are pretty cheap if they are stock
Those are probably the wrong value anyway
you'll want something between 300 and 500 ohms

Couldn't I bore out a hole for the control cavity

the depth of the cavity as well as the overall size may be prohibitive
push/pull pots hang down further into the cavity

if you route out a bigger cavity
you'll want a bigger cover as well
unless you just plan on slapping duck tape over it
that may look good if the guitar is pretty beat up

 

[Squidopusx]

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I wouldn't they are pretty cheap if they are stock
Those are probably the wrong value anyway
you'll want something between 300 and 500 ohms



the depth of the cavity as well as the overall size may be prohibitive
push/pull pots hang down further into the cavity

if you route out a bigger cavity
you'll want a bigger cover as well
unless you just plan on slapping duck tape over it
that may look good if the guitar is pretty beat up

Could I find a bigger cover if I don't do stacked pots

 

[GuitarStv]

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I think by the time you put in the kind of effort you're talking about it would probably be easier and a better final solution to buy a new guitar.

 

[ehdwuld]

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Could I find a bigger cover if I don't do stacked pots

Stacked pots arent the issue
Push pull pots are

push pull pots dont come in stacked concentric
an if they did they would be super tall

push pull pots are very tall

the concentric pots in post #3 would probably work just fine
but will not do coil splitting

 

[Squidopusx]

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Stacked pots arent the issue
Push pull pots are

push pull pots dont come in stacked concentric
an if they did they would be super tall

push pull pots are very tall

the concentric pots in post #3 would probably work just fine
but will not do coil splitting

I'm a bit confused here so I should bother with push pull knobs

 

[Brandenburg]

Re: Guitar additions

Could i add another tone and volume and push pull knobs and new pickups would anyone know how hard and expensive this would be here's a link to my guitar http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Slash-AFD-Les-Paul-Special-II-Guitar-Outfit.aspx

after looking at the guitar and what you want to do.. here are my opinions

The guitar you have chosen probably isnt the best candidate to undertake such a modding adventure..
and
I dont think you will be happy with it.. EVEN if the modding goes off without a hitch which is highly unlikely as you havent modded much.. if at all based on the question you asked (i.e. lack of experience)

gotta be pretty competent with a dremal and have the right bits, know how to solder pretty good as there isnt alot of room to work with the DPDT pots.., and using a drill.. using a drill is easy.. doing so without damaging the finish is a bit harder..I tend to drill a hole that is smaller than what I actually need and use a wood reamer to get the holes to the right size.. I f*cked up a bit on my #1, from drilling an extra volume pot.. so i learned not to do it that way again.. lol

If you want to.. go far it..It will be a learning experience.. I just think the guitar isnt the best candidate

 

[BTMN]

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/\ best answer you have been given. A different guitar will probably suit you better.

 

[Squidopusx]

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I do have one more question would changing the pickups to whole lotta humbuckers would that affect the tuner built in the pickup ring

 

[Johnny the Kid]

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You would have to wire the built in tuner thing, and I'm not sure how to do it. By the time you buy the new pickups and parts and pay someone to change them out and route the body, you could use that money to buy a new guitar. Epiphone makes SG's with coil splits for ~$300. Or spend a little more if you want the Les Paul.

 

[ehdwuld]

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Swapping the guitar on a nicer model with most of the features you want would indeed be the correct answer


And to clarify
I vote yes on concentric pots as shown in post#3
And no on push pull pots ( the coil splitting kind )

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[Squidopusx]

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Swapping the guitar on a nicer model with most of the features you want would indeed be the correct answer


And to clarify
I vote yes on concentric pots as shown in post#3
And no on push pull pots ( the coil splitting kind )

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What's the difference between the concentric and push pull pots

 

[BriGuy1968]

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What's the difference between the concentric and push pull pots

The concentric pots are two pots in one (inner and outer knobs) that work independently from one another. If you used them, you could have one be for tone and one for volume (in your existing holes) but have separate controls over each pickup. The inner could be the bridge and outer for neck, or the other way around... your choice. You could also use one set for the bridge pup (inner volume/outer tone) and the other for the neck. Either way would give you the controls you're looking for without the need for drilling or routing. It would, however, require a complete rewire.

Push-pull pots have a 2-way switch attached to a single pot that is operated by pulling up (or pushing down) the knob. Usually used for coil taps, phase reverse, or on/off. Not really what you are looking for, based on your request.

 

[Squidopusx]

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The concentric pots are two pots in one (inner and outer knobs) that work independently from one another. If you used them, you could have one be for tone and one for volume (in your existing holes) but have separate controls over each pickup. The inner could be the bridge and outer for neck, or the other way around... your choice. You could also use one set for the bridge pup (inner volume/outer tone) and the other for the neck. Either way would give you the controls you're looking for without the need for drilling or routing. It would, however, require a complete rewire.

Push-pull pots have a 2-way switch attached to a single pot that is operated by pulling up (or pushing down) the knob. Usually used for coil taps, phase reverse, or on/off. Not really what you are looking for, based on your request.

So it would be more efficient to get concentric pots

 

[BriGuy1968]

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So it would be more efficient to get concentric pots

Yes, you could fake up the controls of a normal Les Paul (2 vol, 2 tone) without having to add any additional holes with concentric pots... assuming that's what you're looking for.

I think the big question that needs answering for any of us to help you is "WHY?" What are you trying to accomplish? Do you feel like you need 2 volumes and two tones? Personally, I like one master volume and one tone... I have one guitar with the 2vol/2tone setup and I'm not crazy about it (the setup, not the guitar). Other guys will disagree with me, and that's fine because everyone has their own personal preference... but I feel like I need to know what yours is in order to help you. You had mentioned push/pull pots in your original post... why? What were you hoping to have them do? Typically you would use them to do a coil split, but you're not going to get there with this setup... and many times the stock pickups only have two conductors, also making a coil split very difficult.

For the record, I agree with most of the other guys here... if you don't have the experience with making modifications (and your questions lead me to believe that you don't), you may want to just consider getting a different guitar with the features you want. If you do decide to do it yourself, do a LOT of research first to make sure that you have a good, strong understanding of the basics of how your guitar works and the limitations your particular guitar may or may not have (like whether or not there's enough room in the cavity)... BEFORE tearing your guitar apart!