Guitar Contest 2

[Chistopher]

Howdy y'all, I was thinking back on that guitar modding contest we did a while back, what worked well and what didn't. There were three main things I think needed to be worked on:

Better organization (and scoring) to make it less confusing, a price limit to make it more interesting and accessible, and an actual prize to incentivize participation.

Here's a general overview of what I was thinking. We have a start date and an end date. Your submission cannot have been finished before the start date, most of your components have to have been aquired afterwards. There will be a spending limit of probably no more than $300-$500, it's not that simple, but I've got a few rules that can make things easier for people who don't have that type of money to drop on a contest. Lastly we have some sort of meaningful prize(s), I'm willing to submit a DS-1 modded to the winners spec (within reason, but I can do quite a bit with them) and maybe depending on interest and what other people are willing to donate we could have multiple categories people could win.


What do y'all say?

 

[Securb]

Sounds cool. It would be best if you clarified modded guitar vs. custom build though mot custom builds go beyond the $500 ceiling.

 

[Chistopher]

Yeah, I was thinking about a rule where functional components can't be made from scratch. But handmade plastics and aesthetic components can be.

 

[Securb]

A guitar like a Warmouth or my Fender Strat I would call custom-built even though the person does not carve the parts themselves. Dave's Warmouth for example is a custom-built guitar not a modded guitar.

 

[Chistopher]

I see nothing wrong with using warmoth if you can keep it in the price range.

 

[Chistopher]

As far as cost, I'm thinking a $450 spending limit that can be bumped up to $500 if you paint the guitar. This would be a good way to incentivize creativity, not just with cool guitar colors but with drilling, routing, and filling holes.

Also any component under $15, as well as taxes, import, and shipping won't get added to the total.

 

[Aceman]

Cool idea. I might be down.

Criteria for Mod: Minimum of a factory produced and finished Body and Neck to start
- A stripped body could work well here, or parts from multiple guitars

Criteria for an Assembly:
- Purchased parts that are finished and/or functional.
- Painted/routed warmth body with studs inserted, Warmoth neck with Floyd rose nut and Gotoh tuner holes pre-drilled.
* Added this after the last line of build criteria!

Criteria for a Build: A stock unfinished body and neck to begin WITHOUT routes for bridge/pickups/controls or tuners.
- If you are gonna build, then lets freaking build! Warmoth body blank and a neck with frets - the rest is you
- Honestly, Warmoth can take you to bolt the neck on and solder the pickups, done. That's not a "build" it's an assembly. Major criticism of AR "builds" also.

Give points for things done
- Modded the body shape - +5
- Added Tremolo +10
- Tremolo to Floyd +5
- Removed paint to natural +3
- Natural to Paint +5
- Bursted +7
- Custom Graphic +10
- Modded to Humbucker from single +5

And then overall scores 1-20 pts each:
Build
Function
Cool factor
Overall

 

[Securb]

Give points for things done
- Modded the body shape - +5
- Added Tremolo +10
- Tremolo to Floyd +5
- Removed paint to natural +3
- Natural to Paint +5
- Bursted +7
- Custom Graphic +10
- Modded to Humbucker from single +5

And then overall scores 1-20 pts each:
Build
Function
Cool factor
Overall

Points for things done is arbitrary. You give +7 for a burst. Someone who hates bursts would paint over a burst with jet black or blood red. I would never put a custom graphic on one of my guitars. The 80s are over you can keep the +10 points. Tremolo to Floyd +5? I don't like Floyds and just replaced mine with a Sophia. Looks like you want to assign points for your personal preferences.

It should be purely peer-reviewed. The guitar with the most likes wins.

 

[jeremy]

i agree. acebobs list is junk

 

['59]

I think this sounds pretty fun. I'd be down

 

[Securb]

i agree. acebobs list is junk

You think his list is bad you should see his CD collection.

 

[Aceman]

Points for things done is arbitrary. You give +7 for a burst. Someone who hates bursts would paint over a burst with jet black or blood red. I would never put a custom graphic on one of my guitars. The 80s are over you can keep the +10 points. Tremolo to Floyd +5? I don't like Floyds and just replaced mine with a Sophia. Looks like you want to assign points for your personal preferences.

It should be purely peer-reviewed. The guitar with the most likes wins.

I was trying to create some index of difficulty....Just saying a burst is more difficult than a graphic

But yeah, anonymous votes like the SDUG Ultimate Axe contest.

 

[solspirit]

I'm not a fan of the rules, I've got parts here that have been sitting around for years.

 

[Aceman]

It's Christopher's show - he is the final arbiter / decider. He hasn't published anything official yet.

 

[Seashore]

Rats, here's me with my entire guitar improvement budget already spent, and the only projects left in front of me are salvage operations.

 

[Mikelamury]

I would be down for something like this.

 

[Chistopher]

I'm not a fan of the rules, I've got parts here that have been sitting around for years.

I was thinking about that recently. I'd say if you have something on hand we could work something out. Like it's worth whatever the going rate on Reverb is or something.

 

[Aceman]

This is actually a decent opportunity to get rid of my GAS....or at least slow it down.

I have a build in mind.

 

[Chistopher]

Hmm... wouldn anyone be able to find out if one or more of the big names in the Custom Shop would be able to judge so we could have a popular vote winner and a "Seymour's Choice" or something similar as a second winner?

 

[Aceman]

Hmm... wouldn anyone be able to find out if one or more of the big names in the Custom Shop would be able to judge so we could have a popular vote winner and a "Seymour's Choice" or something similar as a second winner?

$#!t

I was hoping to use DiMarzios.....because cheaper