Guitar experts, I need your help!
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Jackson Distortion
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It's not a crazy idea if it is only an idea. If you actually execute this idea and don't like it, you may be stuck with it. You'd probably have a hard time selling though IMO.
Welcome aboard to this 'crazy house full of ideas'.
It's not a crazy idea if it is only an idea. If you actually execute this idea and don't like it, you may be stuck with it. You'd probably have a hard time selling though IMO.
Welcome aboard to this 'crazy house full of ideas'.
Nightrunner
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What kind of fret markers/inlays does it have? This could dictate whether scalloping the fretboard would even be possible couldn't it? Although you may already realize.
--Nightrunner
RnFR said:
What kind of fret markers/inlays does it have? This could dictate whether scalloping the fretboard would even be possible couldn't it? Although you may already realize.
--Nightrunner
Re: Guitar experts, I need your help!
If you're positive that you like scalloped necks and you're comfortable with the idea that a scalloped LP will be hard to sell and for a very low price, then do it... it's your gear after all
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That's what I was thinking too....Arkitkt said:
If you're positive that you like scalloped necks and you're comfortable with the idea that a scalloped LP will be hard to sell and for a very low price, then do it... it's your gear after all
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RnFR
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it is an Epiphone Les Paul Standard. it has this type of inlays: http://www.elderly.com/images/new_instruments/30N/60FLP-HB_inlays-2_sm_.jpg
it is an Epiphone Les Paul Standard. it has this type of inlays: http://www.elderly.com/images/new_instruments/30N/60FLP-HB_inlays-2_sm_.jpg
LesPaulRules
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Don't do it. It's not easy playing in tune on a scalloped board. It's so easy to bend chords sharp.
Go buy a real piece of junk guitar and some sandpaper. You'll get good practice from working on it, then see if you actually like playing it.
Don't do it. It's not easy playing in tune on a scalloped board. It's so easy to bend chords sharp.
Go buy a real piece of junk guitar and some sandpaper. You'll get good practice from working on it, then see if you actually like playing it.
Low_fidelity2100
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Thats not true. Its not anymore difficult to Play intune on a scalloped board than it is to play intune on a board with Super jumbo frets. Ya just have to pay a little more attention.
But anyways. Yeah, I'm goin with everyone else on this. It seems like a bad Idea to scallop a set neck. With a strat, you can buy a pre-scalloped neck, Or a replacement if you scallop the original, and you end up hateing it forwhatever reason. Your pretty much stuck with it on a set neck guitar.....I mean the whole "resale value" thing shouldn't really be an issue, if your gonna scallop it ya probably aren't planning on getting rid of it some time soon anyways, so whatever. But I just think, If you end up decideing You want it unscalloped at any point, your basicially SOL.
Don't do it, at least not to a set necked guitar.
LesPaulRules said:
Thats not true. Its not anymore difficult to Play intune on a scalloped board than it is to play intune on a board with Super jumbo frets. Ya just have to pay a little more attention.
But anyways. Yeah, I'm goin with everyone else on this. It seems like a bad Idea to scallop a set neck. With a strat, you can buy a pre-scalloped neck, Or a replacement if you scallop the original, and you end up hateing it forwhatever reason. Your pretty much stuck with it on a set neck guitar.....I mean the whole "resale value" thing shouldn't really be an issue, if your gonna scallop it ya probably aren't planning on getting rid of it some time soon anyways, so whatever. But I just think, If you end up decideing You want it unscalloped at any point, your basicially SOL.
Don't do it, at least not to a set necked guitar.
Mr. B
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I have never seen it done, but I do know that 2 of the well respected luthiers who's books I have both say there is much more to it than taking a round file to the fretboard and THEY dont do it. I wouldn't try it on anything I wanted to keep.
I have never seen it done, but I do know that 2 of the well respected luthiers who's books I have both say there is much more to it than taking a round file to the fretboard and THEY dont do it. I wouldn't try it on anything I wanted to keep.
Rushfan2112
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I'd say do it. ONLY AFTER THOROUGHLY PLAYING AND TESTING A SCALLOPED GUITAR, like a Yngwie strat or something.
I'd say do it. ONLY AFTER THOROUGHLY PLAYING AND TESTING A SCALLOPED GUITAR, like a Yngwie strat or something.
some_dude
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It's no harder to play than most other guitars. Unless you're using super thin frets you shouldn't be pressing the strings hard enough to touch the fretboard anyway, so scalloping won't suddenly cause you to bend everything out of tune.
Anyway, I wouldn't do it with a Les Paul. I'd try it on a Strat or Tele first....easier to replace the neck if you don't like it and/or f*ck it up.
LesPaulRules said:
It's no harder to play than most other guitars. Unless you're using super thin frets you shouldn't be pressing the strings hard enough to touch the fretboard anyway, so scalloping won't suddenly cause you to bend everything out of tune.
Anyway, I wouldn't do it with a Les Paul. I'd try it on a Strat or Tele first....easier to replace the neck if you don't like it and/or f*ck it up.
Nightrunner
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I looked at a section of Dan Erlewine's "Guitar Player Repair Guide" after I posted the first message since I remembered reading something about scalloping fretboards in there. He writes:
"Also, since the scallops must be quite deep, the position markers may need to be removed and reinlaid. This is easy for dots, but if you have pearl-block or large, ornate inlays, you may have to settle for dot replacements or foot a very expensive reinlay bill. The side dot markers may have to be moved or eliminated as well."
This reason, among others like weakening of the neck, would be enough to steer me away from trying to scallop a fretboard with block inlays...
--Nightrunner
WhoFan said:
I looked at a section of Dan Erlewine's "Guitar Player Repair Guide" after I posted the first message since I remembered reading something about scalloping fretboards in there. He writes:
"Also, since the scallops must be quite deep, the position markers may need to be removed and reinlaid. This is easy for dots, but if you have pearl-block or large, ornate inlays, you may have to settle for dot replacements or foot a very expensive reinlay bill. The side dot markers may have to be moved or eliminated as well."
This reason, among others like weakening of the neck, would be enough to steer me away from trying to scallop a fretboard with block inlays...
--Nightrunner
Gearjoneser
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Don't do it. Unless you're a highly skilled luthier (I mean for real), you're going to make a mess out of it. You run the risk of the neck bowing or twisting, going too deep over inlays that crumble, and leaving scrape marks everywhere.
Millions of guitarists play without scalloped fretboards, and you there's no reason to NOT be one of them.
Don't do it. Unless you're a highly skilled luthier (I mean for real), you're going to make a mess out of it. You run the risk of the neck bowing or twisting, going too deep over inlays that crumble, and leaving scrape marks everywhere.
Millions of guitarists play without scalloped fretboards, and you there's no reason to NOT be one of them.
Zerberus
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@ Nightrunner: IMO Playability ALWAYS takes priority over cosmetics. What good does the most beautiful ornate guitar do me if it´s unplayable?
If you´ve played a scalloped board and prefer it, there is absolutely NO reason not to have a neck professionally scalloped.
To those that say that Jumbo Frets feel the same: NOT, play one before you say that.
As far as Inlays: Whether it´s a Johnson or a Jackson, block inlays will always be scarred if not destroyed by scalloping. These inlays are only a fraction of a mm high.
My advice: play a scalloped guitar like a Yngwie Strat for a few hours, then decide. Note also that on strings heavier than 10s (and even with 10s to some extent) you will lose much of the benefit of scallops as far as Violin bends and Chord bends go....
@ Nightrunner: IMO Playability ALWAYS takes priority over cosmetics. What good does the most beautiful ornate guitar do me if it´s unplayable?
If you´ve played a scalloped board and prefer it, there is absolutely NO reason not to have a neck professionally scalloped.
To those that say that Jumbo Frets feel the same: NOT, play one before you say that.
As far as Inlays: Whether it´s a Johnson or a Jackson, block inlays will always be scarred if not destroyed by scalloping. These inlays are only a fraction of a mm high.
My advice: play a scalloped guitar like a Yngwie Strat for a few hours, then decide. Note also that on strings heavier than 10s (and even with 10s to some extent) you will lose much of the benefit of scallops as far as Violin bends and Chord bends go....
dayvo
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Id get a cheapo guitar and try it on that
Dont risk ruining your Les Paul
Heres a tutorial from Project Guitar on scalloping for your reference
http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/scal1.htm
dayvo
Id get a cheapo guitar and try it on that
Dont risk ruining your Les Paul
Heres a tutorial from Project Guitar on scalloping for your reference
http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/scal1.htm
dayvo