Guitars being "more resonant" (clips inside)

[uOpt]

Just doing an ear-check.

I'm messing with what we call "being resonant" in a guitar.

I have compiled three sets of soundfiles. Two Tele tests, three LP bridge, three LP neck. Long-sustain fingerpicking so that you can listen to "resonance" as the tone swells.

Each set has one guitar in it that I find to be "more resonant". I'm curious whether that matches other people's expectations.

If you want to have a look/listen, the samples are at:
http://www.cons.org/tmp/restest.zip

 

[uOpt]

Re: Guitars being "more resonant" (clips inside)

So far the results are opposite of what I heard. Goes to show what we know all along, we'll never agree on what's good or even "resonant"

Any other takers?

The Tele clips are the same guitar (my Black Korina Tele with an Antiquity 1 bridge) with two different necks (different tuners, too).

The LP neck clips are three different LPs, the LP bridge two guitars, one with two different pickups.

 

[JerL91]

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I couldn't really hear a lot of difference between the Teles. I thought the second one had a slightly more deadened sound on the first few notes you played and the first one rang out a little longer and brighter.

The bridge LP's, I thought 2 was most resonant, even though it was a little less bright and quieter. Then probably comes 1

And for the neck LP's, I was torn between 1 and 2, 1 was brighter, but 2 had a little more ring and body to it. I voted for 2.

 

[GoDrex]

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number one on all sound better to me - if it's more resonant I don't know.

maybe next time try it without effects.

 

[uOpt]

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Yeah, I gotta find new clips material. Suggestions welcome.

But with no effects and just dry hard guitar the whole thing turns into a lab experiment and feels too much like work. Kind of like going from a model agency photoshoot to a coroner's job

 

[Karmadog777]

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well I am wondering what some people consider resonant now.
To my ears LP3 sound most resonant in bridge and neck
and tele 2 sounded more resonant to me

I purposly listened to the clips B4 reading the post or seeing results,LOL no one agrees with me as usual....but you know my Amp has a resonance switch on it,I think I know what resonance is. BTW I had no troube learing differences between clips

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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Yeah, I gotta find new clips material. Suggestions welcome.

But with no effects and just dry hard guitar the whole thing turns into a lab experiment and feels too much like work. Kind of like going from a model agency photoshoot to a coroner's job

Well, that's what it's about. To do a fair comparison, ideally you'd have each guitar fretted and plucked mechanically for the simple fact of eliminating "player preference" and personal technique issues.

Basically you'd need to mechanically generate a tone in an unbiased manner and have it pass through the guitars.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Guitars being "more resonant" (clips inside)

well I am wondering what some people consider resonant now.
To my ears LP3 sound most resonant in bridge and neck
and tele 2 sounded more resonant to me

That mostly matches my impression (I didn't vote on the poll myself yet), except that the clip numbers are truly randomized. LP3 in the bridge clips is not the same guitar that LP3 in the neck clips is.

I think that there is a "reverb" in one guitar each in the three sets that I would say is "resonance". The next can of worms is whether the guitar with "more resonance" (for whatever definition of "resonance") is better.

The LP3 neck is a little too dark for my taste, it's the pickup in there.

I purposly listened to the clips B4 reading the post or seeing results,LOL no one agrees with me as usual....but you know my Amp has a resonance switch on it,I think I know what resonance is. BTW I had no troube learing differences between clips

Wait until I post the clips with different tone pot capacitors. The results will probably make good military encryption grade random numbers

 

[uOpt]

Re: Guitars being "more resonant" (clips inside)

Well, that's what it's about. To do a fair comparison, ideally you'd have each guitar fretted and plucked mechanically for the simple fact of eliminating "player preference" and personal technique issues.

Basically you'd need to mechanically generate a tone in an unbiased manner and have it pass through the guitars.

I think it's OK for this simple fingerpicking. I record these clips 3 times and then pick the ones that are uniform. Fast and/or more dynamic play has great variance even on the same guitar, and with different guitars you quickly judge the hand shape of the player, not the tree the guitar was made from.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Guitars being "more resonant" (clips inside)

Thanks to those who participated. It's interesting to see how different people judge "sound" or "tone".

For reference, here's what you were listening to:

"Tele": My black korina Tele body, unfinished, brass 3-saddle vintage style bridge with an Antiquity 1 pickup. "Tele1" is a new, unfinished Warmoth "vintage modern" 59 shape neck with ebony fingerboard and tall/narrow frets. "Tele2" is the same setup but a scalloped 1983-something Roadstar neck with rosewood fretboard, large frets and sealed tuners.

The LPs are:
- a 1980 Greco EG-1000C, all original, 300 Kohm pots
- a 1983 Burny LP standard, 500 K pots
- a (probably 1990) Burny LP custom, 500 K pots

All of them non-chambered, non-cheesed, fretboard edge binding.

lpneck1: Burny LPC with Duncan Antiquity
lpneck2: Greco
lpneck3: Burny LPS with WCR (sold to me as a Filmore but I suspect it's a Goodwood

lpbridge1: Burny LPS with Lollar imperial
lpbridge2: Burny LPS with Duncan '78
lpbridge3: Greco



To my ears, the Greco is more resonant than either Burny and the old Ibanez neck more than the new ebony neck on the Tele.

"Resonant" to me means that there's some kind of depth in the sound a little bit like a reverb. Not a dry tone.