H/H/H wiring

[Zaakkk]

We all here did try to find the cause of the noise when using High Z on my Steinberg USB interface and Digitech RP360 without any success so it's time for me to give up.
Yes the noise is present in all pickup positions, so the middle pickup being out of phase with the 2 humbuckers cannot be the cause of that noise.
Trying a different wiring scheme is going to be the answer only to the out of phase flat sound and not the noise problem, but I am ready to accept it.
The only thing I haven't tried yet is NOT to use a toggle switch or to use a different one.
Would you please someone draw me a wiring using DiMarzio EP1111 (4PDT) Pickup Selector Switch with 12 terminals - 3 Position (On/On/On) please?
:kabong:

 

[Hank-]

There are three types of 4PDT ON/ON/ON switches available in the market, the terminals of which connect differently. I attached an image in my previous post showing it. Dimarzio doesn't have it mentioned on their site. You need to tell which type it is otherwise no one can draw a diagram for it.

The HiZ is not the problem, it's what a guitar amp uses. You should not get buzz because of it. For the time being your base wiring didn't match in the vids compared to the diagram you initially were following. So first thing is to correct it, look at it again, if you spot the difference then good. Otherwise to learn that, make things error proof. Remove all complex things that you have in there. Wire it up like a basic three pickup guitar, 1 vol, 1 tone & a standard 5way switch. That is the only way to troubleshoot the problem because it won't go away. Or take it back to a luthier.

Also looks like the factory jack wire is a leftover pickup wire, it's very unlikely Ibanez follows that practice, so get a proper one online, it appears like there is no bare/shield on it.

 

[Zaakkk]

This should be how DiMarzio EP1111 works.

I found another topic about it here:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/foru...o-EP1111-help=

This is the DiMarzio address:
https://www.dimarzio.com/hardware/sw...osition-ononon

"The easiest way to explain a three-position, four pole double throw switch is to say that it is essentially two double throw double pole switches in one housing. With just this one powerful switch, any number of switching options can be achieved — from simple pickup selection to phase reversal, coil splitting, and pickup selection or blower switch options (routing around a volume or tone pot and direct to the output jack) "

I'm sorry, I don't understand how and where my base wiring doesn't match in my videos compared to the diagram I follow.

If you draw me what needs to be corrected I will be able to do it. Explaining doesn't work well with me.

The factory jack wire was a shielded humbucker pickup wire with bare shielding on it. I replaced it along with all other wires trying to eliminate the noise problem, but it's still here.

Would anyone please at least tell me if the "IDIOT PROOF WIRING" I posted up here is correct?

If you want me to wire it like a basic three pickup guitar, I can do that if I know what diagram to follow.
I found those 3 wiring diagrams who have my 5 way switch.
Should I do any of them and which one?
Thanks.

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Trying a different wiring scheme is going to be the answer only to the out of phase flat sound and not the noise problem

You don't need to change wiring schemes to fix the Middle Pickup Out Of Phase problem. The email from Dimarzio gave instructions on which wires to swap around to resolve that. Of course, you can change wiring schemes if you want different tones.

With that noise problem your guitar has, I think you need someone with more experience in troubleshooting wiring jobs than I have. Like I said earlier, i am still developing my troubleshooting skills, whereas wiring diagram design is a stronger skill for me at the moment. I am glad to see Hank is helping you out. He seems to have a lot more experience than me with troubleshooting wiring jobs. I think you will be in good hands with Hank.

 

[Zaakkk]

So the "IDIOT PROOF WIRING" I posted up here is correct? :feedback:

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

So the "IDIOT PROOF WIRING" I posted up here is correct? :feedback:

Zaakkk,

Sorry I have not been able to reply sooner - I got busy with my job and my own guitar wiring projects.

In my opinion, the 3 diagrams you chose are not simple enough. The goal is to keep the wiring very simple so it is easy to determine where the cause of a problem is coming from. All three of those diagrams involve coil-splitting which means extra wiring. We can add coilsplitting later. For now, let's keep it simple.

So i have created the attached diagram for a simple wiring scheme that uses the Dimarzio wiring color codes.

*IF* position 2 or 4 sounds out-of-phase, simply swap places on the Middle pickup's Green and Red wires.

Let me know how this goes. Good luck.

 

[Zaakkk]

Thanks Jack,
I'll do yours and come back with Gravity Storm of feedback.
:notworthy

 

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Thanks Jack,
I'll do yours and come back with Gravity Storm of feedback.
:notworthy

You're welcome.

I'm hoping this will expose where the added noise when turning the volume pot down is coming from.

 

[Zaakkk]

High Resolution: https://www.dropbox.com/s/otuev1n5t829b2n/20200906_235131.jpg?dl=0

I tried Jack's wiring but it went all weird and I couldn't make it to work.
Not idiot proof enough for me. :naughty:
So I wired it with my idiot proof diagram I posted earlier and at least it worked although the High Impedance noise issue wasn't resolved.
I am tired of trying so it is what it is.
At least we tried!
Thanks.
The End.

 

[Zaakkk]

After countless failed attempts I finally managed to figure out what went wrong with my old wiring having noise (impedance) issues.
IT'S WORKI-I-ING !
I hope it would help somebody.
:arms: