Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

TOM type bridges have been known to sag in the middle of their span after years under tension. That's one of the primary reasons why Gibson switched to the Nashville type bridge, with a more robust chassis that won't become swaybacked over time.

I never knew that. very interesting.
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

TOM type bridges have been known to sag in the middle of their span after years under tension. That's one of the primary reasons why Gibson switched to the Nashville type bridge, with a more robust chassis that won't become swaybacked over time.

Yes...though it happens to Nashville bridges too (case in point, the bridge I mentioned in my earlier post).

It can be compensated for by notching the outer saddles deeper, but it still ain't a good thing when it happens. Because of how shallow Nashville saddles are, notching the saddles deeper usually places the strings against the back side of the wide-ass bridge.
 
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Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

TOM type bridges have been known to sag in the middle of their span after years under tension. That's one of the primary reasons why Gibson switched to the Nashville type bridge, with a more robust chassis that won't become swaybacked over time.

It’s usually from people screwing the stop bar all the way down. That introduces too much downward pressure on the bridge. Since it’s only zinc is collapses.

The stop bars are adjustable for a reason. There’s no reason to screw them all the way down.

My favorite Gibson bridge was the harmonica Schallers. Very solid with more intonation adjustment range.


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Wait a minute!
You're saying that the nylon saddles were brighter and had more snap than brass?!!!

I think you're losing a little credibility with this one.

Try it. Brass is a fairly soft metal. It has a darker tone. I like harder saddles like steel. The nylon tuneomatic was brighter sounding than the brass bridge. But the brass bridge was also much heavier.

My Gibson EB-2DC also had nylon saddles. I replaced them with aluminum.

Now here’s a question for you; what’s brighter? Brass or aluminum? Which one is lighter?


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Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

It’s usually from people screwing the stop bar all the way down. That introduces too much downward pressure on the bridge. Since it’s only zinc is collapses.

The stop bars are adjustable for a reason. There’s no reason to screw them all the way down.

My favorite Gibson bridge was the harmonica Schallers. Very solid with more intonation adjustment range.


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That would certainly be a contributing factor, I'd think. But it's worth mentioning that this has happened to me on a guitar that has had its tailpiece studs adjusted "normally" from day 1 (2004 w/ Nashville bridge), as well as on a guitar with a Maestro Vibrola (1968 ABR-1), and a guitar with a trapeze tailpiece (another 1968 ABR-1).
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

Schaller roller bridges are absolutely excellent. Plus string spacing adjustability.

I have one ready to go for my Jackson RRXT once the new nut arrives and I get that on it.

Guitardoc,

Serious question for you. Are there really 500 dollar bridges out there? In my brief looking around for one I never any that high of a price or is that number just being used to reference "expensive" bridges? Hope that makes sense. Thanks.
 
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I have one ready to go for my Jackson RRXT once the new nut arrives and I get that on it.

Guitardoc,

Serious question for you. Are there really 500 dollar bridges out there? In my brief looking around for one I never any that high of a price or is that number just being used to reference "expensive" bridges? Hope that makes sense. Thanks.


Floyd Titanium, $899
FRX Titanium, $2,999

...which is a damn farce. Titanium is pricier than steel or aluminium, but nowhere near the level they seem to imply (probably playing on how people don't know any better).

My grandfather had a titanium shovel at his cabin. It was a damn nice premium shovel... but that's all it was.

We still shoveled dirt and crap with it.

It sure as hell wasn't the family jewels or a proud art piece.
 
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Floyd Titanium, $899
FRX Titanium, $2,999

...which is a damn farce. Titanium is pricier than steel or aluminium, but nowhere near the level they seem to imply (probably playing on how people don't know any better).

My grandfather had a titanium shovel at his cabin. It was a damn nice premium shovel... but that's all it was.

We still shoveled dirt and crap with it.

It sure as hell wasn't the family jewels or a proud art piece.

Holy shat! Thanks for the reply.
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

Far be it from me to defend outrageous prices. But titanium is not just more expensive, it's harder.
That makes it more difficult to work with, especially when producing finely machined parts to precise specs.
 
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I see no value in using Titanium. It’s an over priced fad. Steel is stronger. The little extra weight isn’t a big deal.


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Hell Yeah!
I've replaced many tune-o-matic with roller bridges. The best one being the Schaller. The only problem with the Schaller is that it has a 14" radius. On a few guitars the tailpiece bushings have wiggled loose so in the process of doweling the holes and re-drilling them I have discovered that filling the factory bridge bushing holes with hardwood dowels and redrilling them with smaller bushings for Gibson sized bridges has changed them for the better. I replaced the bridge and tailpiece on an Explorer with a Fold Rose FRX! Going from no whammy to the an awesome whammy is a very noticeable difference.
-Scott
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

What you really want is a original Leo Quan Badass bridge... :13:
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

Far be it from me to defend outrageous prices. But titanium is not just more expensive, it's harder.
That makes it more difficult to work with, especially when producing finely machined parts to precise specs.


Not $2800 harder.

Else there wouldn't be no titanium shovels


Also, pretty sure all hard metal is tooled with a variety of carbide and diamond grit tools anyway.
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

I see no value in using Titanium. It’s an over priced fad. Steel is stronger. The little extra weight isn’t a big deal.


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Most steel is weaker. Youre thinking of titanium/aluminium alloys.
 
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I have a big rod of titanium in my leg and i can safely say it's the best :fing2:.

 
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^^^Now when you stub your toe there's this weird ring-tone that last for three days.
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

^^^Now when you stub your toe there's this weird ring-tone that last for three days.

DONG!

Yeah that and my knee pops out when i'm kneeling over. It's really great.
 
Re: Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

not sure if I replied already or not.. no time to read thru all to see.. I too have had improvements in many aspects of bridge changes. I had an Epi LP that had one of their bridges with the wires that hold the saddles in. The saddles were loose and buzzy. Bought a good GOTOH bridge and problem solved.
Also, for Floyds, Im a believer in the big brass blocks too. And some of the other upgrades.. At first, I thought "snake oil", but they do make an improvement.. I also love Tone Pros bridges.
 
Has changing a guitar bridge ever truly made the axe sound better?

Most steel is weaker. Youre thinking of titanium/aluminium alloys.

Sources? Also what alloys of Ti are used for guitar hardware?

“Titanium is a silvered colored metal with low density and high strength. It is notable for having the highest tensile strength-to-density ratio of any metallic element. However, it’s not as hard as some varieties of heat-treated steel”

https://www.metalsupermarkets.com/the-strongest-metals/


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