Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

zionstrat

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I love this forum- you guys directed me to my perfect pickup a while back and I wanted to share results with you-

The pup is a Vox Coaxe and it achieves snappy/bright to solid mid-range using an entirely different approach than traditional pickups- Each pup consists of a tapped/full coil that is surrounded by a second tapped/full coil and the results are amazing- It is noise cancelling in all combinations and achieves the tone differences with combinations of the tapped coils or untapped coils. Details here:
http://www.planetz.com/vox-coaxe-interview-with-vox-rd/

I got into the pup with the Vox SC33- Out of the box tele to p90 sounds- The guitar is well built and an incredible value, however, I love wide D bolt on necks, so I built the following with 2 Coaxe and a GFS cruiser to get a ridiculous number of really useful sounds-

MXS L5 Coaxe.jpg


The inner 5 way provides traditional pickup combinations, but the key to this design is the outer 5 way that provides the following taps:
1. Tapped on both Coaxe- Very, very teleish
2. Hot neck with tapped bridge- fatter deeper
3. Tapped on both with all kinds of cool combos with the center pup, including a Hoop to reduce thickness- this is a very 'fat' guitar
4. Hot Bridge with Tapped neck- Fatter than #2
5. Full wind of both Coaxes- Slightly thicker than a p90

Because it's a maple bolt on, this build is naturally snappy- But the big mahogany body just loves the untapped coils and the snap gets overwhelmed by the thick drive. Seriously, this build goes from tele/strat to LP junior with extreme sustain.

Many, many of you helped along the way- calling out Artie2 for design many years ago and Brian George for recent wiring help.

I also passed the news onto SD- I don't know how copyrights work, however, Vox doesn't seem to have plans to sell this pup and that is a real shame- I'm winding a similar design for myself, however, it would be great if this form of pup could be mass produced and varieties would be incredibly interesting (their are no variations, neck and bridge are exactly the same pup and works fine as is).

So thanks again to all- my 2 primary guitars are designs that you guys inspired (the other one is SD driven with a JB and a cool rails;)

Cheers,
Mickey
 
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Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

Those look like cool pickups. I never got a chance to try one. Couldn't find any Vox guitars in stores and then they stopped making them.

Also, Vox has a patent on that, not a copyright.
They could license it to someone. But I doubt SD would do that.


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Re: Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

Patent- that makes sense-
Yep, I found these pups in Europe- user liked the vox platform, but not a blues/county/rock sound. Worked out well for me-
 
Re: Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

This is very cool, and a very interesting design. It is certainly an interesting pickup design, and proves that after all these years, there can still be new ideas out there.
 
Re: Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

"Noise-cancelling in all combinations" is very cool indeed. Lace has a new set of Matt Pike signature pickups called the Dragonauts, and their marketing says, "A thunderous full double coil tone along with a zero noise split single coil tone".

I wonder if the split mode is truly noiseless, or if it's something like the Lace Dually design, where the split mode is just a Lace Sensor that's reduced noise but not truly noiseless in the humbucking sense.

This thread reminds me of an old post here by the mighty Frank Falbo. Given his history with SD and now Fishman Fluence, it's interesting to see him comment on the Vox CoAxe technology.

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/sho...Coax-pickups&p=3580917&viewfull=1#post3580917
 
Re: Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

Stratguy, he makes a really good point in the other thread- every pickup is different and there are so many variables between style, setup, etc that you really can't predict 100% how anyone will react to anything. On that point, I play 12s and have a very heavy hand and these pups might not sounds so great with light strings, etc.

I can't say I know Lace at all, but they do seem to be known as another out of the box design.

Great to hear from you again and much peace!
ZStrat/Mickey
 
Re: Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

So glad you love these, zionstrat! I'm a fan of the CoAxe. Very cool pickups. Have a set in a Vox but it never occurred to me to try 'em in anything else- it isn't a pickup you can find for sale separately.
 
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Re: Have found my Holy Grail Tele to P90 pup and it's not a PRail

Yep, I got lucky- Vox SCs are more common in Europe and I lucked out with a set after someone changed them out for mini-hums- I get the idea, it should sound very close to a classic LP deluxe-

I have another set in an sc33, I'm going to put minis in it and resell so I can keep the coaxes;) It's worth the pain for me to get this sound!

Thanks again for the inspiration-
Zstrat
 
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