Heavier bridge pickup for LP with a Pearly Gates neck

Re: Heavier bridge pickup for LP with a Pearly Gates neck

through my old envoy the PGB sounded evil enough to do sodom from the final sign of evil to till death do us unite, for tones of m-16 and above it lacked mids big time as those were done with a distortion mayhem set and emg's

i only got the dimebucker because i wanted to do pantera spot on and have a nice texas spiced thrash tone
 
Re: Heavier bridge pickup for LP with a Pearly Gates neck

Lol, turn the mids on the pedal up.

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Effs up the whole tone at the amp, tried that. Needs to not color the mids and highs, more than 3 knobs would help for sure though, a dedicated eq would probably be the ticket.
 
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Knocked out the swap on mine tonight with about 30 minutes of playing time.

1st impression, the guitar doesn't sound as Les Paul on the bridge anymore. I was a little disapointed. Tight, aggressive if you play it that way, good bass. It really is like a PAF on roids only with a little magic taken out, a hair sterile. Replaces the magic with fast response and cut. Nails White Zombie tone though!

The middle position of the guitar sounds f#$%*>g awesome. This is how I wanted the bridge alone to sound. I will be checking out more about the 59/Custom for sure now.

Same as always, the PGn owns every other neck pup I've played.

I'm going to mess with it a couple of weeks but there's a 90% chance of it coming out with how I feel about it now. The Custom does sound good, but doesn't scratch the tone itch I was looking for and doesn't exploit the capabilities of what a LP was meant to do.

Try the JB/C8 hybrid if you want a heavy PAF that sounds Les Paul ish.
 
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Hmm I just reinstalled the 498T. Same as I remembered -pretty much spot on for output but lacking warmth.

Still considering putting an A8 in it - but also the 59/custom hybrid looks interesting. Wondering how that would compare in terms of heavy tones to the 498. Seems like the hybrid would be a really good pair with the PG neck.
 
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Yeah, the Hybrid is a great bridge pickup for many types of music, and you might find it a little 'softer' than the C5, but that is the beauty of it. It will also sound good split (if that is your thing).
 
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Yeah, the Hybrid is a great bridge pickup for many types of music, and you might find it a little 'softer' than the C5, but that is the beauty of it. It will also sound good split (if that is your thing).

Maybe I will go with this. I'm a bit uninterested in getting into magnet swapping and just want to find the right eplacement pickup. Trying out the 498 again made me decide the C5's going to be too similar. The A8 looks great but is kind of a gamble in terms of it sounding too mushy, I saw that youtube. The SH-16 looks the most consistent and a good cross between metal and more of PG's vintage territory. I'm going to order this soon unless anyone here convinces me otherwise. The alt8 is super tempting..
 
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This. Have on my PRS, but both pickups do compliment each other nicely. I added push pull to wire each one in parallel for added versatility.
 
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Is the hybrid going to be heavy enough for metal and have a great tone for soloing? I really enjoyed the extra output of the 498, but the hybrid is a bit less. I don't care about clean tones but for crunch I want tones that stil work with the PG. Without magnet swapping. Choices, choices. I secretly want to get that alt 8 but I feel it's the risky buy. No free replacements if I buy jn Japan (there are "dealers" here with very limited stocks charging 2x the ebay prices).
 
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Ok, let's recap...


I have a PG set. I love the neck, but the bridge doesn't really take me where I want to go with the guitar now. I got it when I was using an Ibanez for metal tones, but now I'm selling the ibanez. I want to keep the PG neck and then add a hotter bridge pickup.
Metal guitar is gone, the guitar with the PG set is being expected to step up and do metal.

I don't care so much if it doesn't perfectly match the PG, as long as it isn't jarring how different they are.
Few Seymour Duncan aficionados user will tell you that a vintage output Seymour Duncan neck pickup will be jarring with a Seymour Duncan bridge pickup of pretty much any flavor. There may be preferences between the vintage line, and someone might go outside the box and suggest a vintage bridge pickup, but vintage output neck is perfectly OK with a scorching bridge. This isn't to say that people won't recommend hotter neck pickups, but there isn't much dissension about recommending a vintage output pickup.


If I can do a more modest rock sound by rolling back the volume on the bridge pup, then that would be enough.
Not without '50s wiring, a treble bleed, or possibly a no-load tone control, or remove the tone control altogether. Without one of these in place, rolling off the volume reduces your highs. The fewer highs, the harder it will be to get a rock sound.

I'd like something that can do van halen style tap harmonics
With enough gain and highs and proper technique this won't be a problem.
However...
good for solos like Vai, and do a little rythm for Megadeth, Metallica and so on.
Now we're getting into a bit of a problem area. There's a reason why the DiMarzio tech mentioned the pickups he mentioned.

I've looked at the JB but sound clips make it sound like it doesn't have the clear definition type tone I want for solos.
As others stated, the JB is quite possibly the best pickup for clear definition for solos ever made. Let's also not forget that Dave Mustaine used them with Megadeth for quite a long time, not that I think it's the best pickup for you.


I'm leaning more toward a pegasus, illuminator or titan. I never downtune - wonder if these are better for guitars for tuning down. I love Dream Theater and the JP6 guitars sound great, so I would normally not hesitate to get the illuminator, but I wonder how it would sound in an LP and also I wonder if it is just too compressed to fit in with the PG.
You have an 24.75" scale in standard tuning. One way to get a 25.5" scale to sound more like a 24.75" scale is to down-tune. The Pegasus, Illuminator and Titan will work just fine in an LP, as will a Custom 5 or an Alt 8. The PG neck will work fine with any of these.

What do you guys think?
The 59/Custom hybrid isn't really what you want.
 
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Gregory-thanks for the summary. Alright, the hybrid is out.

I of course want to choose a pickup that sounds non-sterile and rich. I've read that the SH-5 can be this way. Of the other higher output pickups, which would be the best considering everything mentioned in this thread?
 
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Curious why the Hybrid is out. The Custom does sound a bit sterile, but the clips I was listening to this morning seemed that the '59 coil on the hybrid mediated that quite a bit and still had the aspects of the Custom that I do like. Is it still too sterile or does it not have enough output for an aggressive sound? I want to emphasize that I don't want this to sound like I'm saying you're wrong at all, but what is the issue that makes it a bad candidate for the tone that is being looked for?

I reallylike the split position between my DCb/PGn. If I could have a bridge pickup that sounded like that all by itself I'd be a pretty happy camper.
 
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I of course want to choose a pickup that sounds non-sterile and rich. I've read that the SH-5 can be this way. Of the other higher output pickups, which would be the best considering everything mentioned in this thread?
I have an SH-5 in my 1976 Custom that I put in sometime in the late '80s, it's ballsy and does metal well, but I have to agree with some of the criticisms of the pickup that have been made. Touch sensitivity is lacking and the treble can easily get out of hand. I don't do metal anymore and have considered putting a UOA5 in the SH-5, going the hybrid route, or simply replacing it with a 59 or 59 with a roughcast A5. It's low on my list because it weighs a ton and I have other guitars that I feel better beating up on. If I still did metal then I wouldn't be messing around with vintage coils in the bridge of the LP. The other thing is that my LP has three pickups, so I don't need to worry about an aggressive pickup not being able to clean up in the treble position.

Honestly, I'd do the magnet swap with your 498T first.
 
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Re: Heavier bridge pickup for LP with a Pearly Gates neck

id just stic an A8 or A9 on your PGb and that should be enough to do metal with it
 
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