Hello Green Rhino...a long review...

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i got my Rhino a few days ago so it's still the honeymoon but i must say, i'm quite impressed. to start i'm a big fan of screamer variations so i figured i would have a good shot at liking this. the thing that i knew going in that could put it a step above all the other screamers and variations of screamers out there modded and stock is that little 100Hz knob. man does that kick ass.

step on a normal screamer and you get some bottom end cut, which can be good (real good for boosting already high gain amps to tighten them up) but in other cases you want that fatter bottom and it's gone with a typical screamer. the usual fix is a cap swap that alters the low end but also screws with the mids and ends up being a bit mushy or muddy and it's never 100% perfect for every situation. you're stuck with the cap values that worked for the designers amp and guitar setup and his ears. of course the other option is an OD with separate bass and treble knobs but let's not get into that, we're talking about this in a lineage of pedals that for ages had just a tone knob and perhaps a toggle that swaps out the already mentioned bass altering cap. the 100Hz knob lets you tailor the bottom end to fit your needs perfectly from really cut off if you want to massively fat if wanted and anything between. i have OD pedals with bass and treble knobs and for some reason i like the Rhino's setup of tone and 100Hz better than that.

the midrange (since that's a typical topic of screamer discussion and everyone is going to want to compare this to a screamer...thus why i am in my review to make things easier) is still screamer like but smoother and not quite as abrupt or aggressive a mid spike. it certainly cuts well and has a pleasant midrange but isn't hard on the ears or making you reach for the mid knob on the amp to turn it down or anything like that.

when used in almost a distortion pedal form with its drive cranked up through a clean channel it works quite well for some heavy blues or classic rock stuff. i had a lot of fun messing with it like that and i usually hate cranked overdrive pedals into clean amps. i like to get my gain sounds more from the amp with an OD used more mildly on a clean amp for just a little push or breakup and not using it all out with the drive on 10. it works even better boosting my already broken up JMP. with the JMP cranked for some good hard rock tones and the Rhino pushing it it easily gets into 80s metal territory. 100Hz knob yet again stealing the show in both cases letting me bring or take the chunk exactly how i wanted to.

which brings us to me using it as i normally do being more of a higher gain 80s metal or modern hard rock/metal style player with it boosting an already cranked modern high gain amp (in this case both my peavey 3120 and 5150 which i run in stereo) again that 100Hz knob really makes it extra tweakable which no other OD pedal with just a single tone knob i've had could do of course. you can get the low end crazy tight and cut or to a more typical screamer style tightness in the lows with some knob tweaking or you can add the bottom end back in and have a boosted extra saturated high gain amp with a fat bottom end that still remains tighter than if you just cranked the amp without the Rhino there. everyone with a 5150 or Dual Recto (i used to own one) knows what i mean. they can be a bit woofy and flabby on the bottom without a boost but when you boost them you may lose too much of the chunk. so instead of going right for the bass or resonance knob on the amp you have a 3rd option to tailor the low end in the 100Hz knob of the Rhino.

i'm quite impressed with the pedal and if you like screamer variations and want one that's a bit smoother and with more tonal options than any of the others this may be the key. i tried it in all methods i ever need to use an OD, into clean, into crunchy and into high gain and it worked well in all cases. i know i'm beating a dead horse here but it's all about that 100Hz knob.

i've owned tons of screamer variations both boutique and big brand along with modded screamers by lots of the big names in pedal modding. i've also built and modded a ton of them on my own i'm quite proud of. that said this little 100Hz knob alone makes this one a step above the rest in tailoring the exact tone you want from an OD without going to a pedal with a separate bass and treble knob setup. with some of the modded pedals they would be great, nice and chunky for pushing a clean amp and perhaps just a touch too fat pushing a crunchy JMP style amp. however try and use it with a high gain amp and it's flabby bottom city with a big woofy bottom due to the over compensation in cap values the modder or pedal builder chose to use while trying to add back the bottom the screamer is notorious for losing. i've never found a perfect OD in the screamer family that did all 3 types of OD well (clean amp, crunchy amp, high gain amp) and it was always more about the bottom than the mids some people get hooked on when it comes to screamers. the rhino seems to fix that problem with one simple knob.

as for the curve knob since i know i'll be asked about it. i'll be honest i'm still trying to put into words how it changes the tone. way huge says it tailors the "corner frequencies" and i guess that makes sense when you hear it in person but explaining what a corner frequency is in words seems a bit hard to do. this is more of a thing you have to hear for yourself as you sweep the knob or perhaps you'll hear in a good quality clip when PGS or similar does their video review. unfortunately i can't do any good quality clips and trying to explain in words won't do it much good. explaining low end is one thing we can all understand flabby or tight etc but at least to me it's easier to hear the "corner frequency" change rather than write down what it is.

in summary, 100Hz knob on a screamer style pedal....hell yeah! :headbang: i mentioned it so much since it really sets the pedal apart from all the other green overdrives out there while not going to the other OD pedal style of using separate bass and treble knobs.

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-Mike
 
Re: Hello Green Rhino...a long review...

If you pick up the new Guitar Center catalog with Weezer on the front cover, there's a great interview with Jeorge Tripps, the founder of Way Huge.

After his original pedal company folded, he went to work for Line 6 when they started.
Then he became one of the gurus at Dunlop/MXR where he put together the Hendrix reissue line....the new one. He also designed the MXR Carbon Copy.

I don't own any Way Huge pedals...yet. I love the brushed anodized look. Very timeless and classy.
 
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Thx for the review man!

Yep, seems like this thing will live up to the expectations after all!!
Wonder if this will become the new "go-to"overdrive.

BTW: how much does the Rhino sell for?
 
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Does it seriously come with pins? that is beyond awesome.

What's the price?!

can I do away with my super overdrive if i get this bad boy?
 
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Niels...yup, leave it to Tripps to take a classic circuit i've always like variations of and tweak it a bit then add one little knob that blew me away adding versatility all the others lack. it really does stand out thanks to that magic 100Hz knob.

GJ...this is the first WH pedal i own and that will make it to my board. i tried other and liked them but didn't need them for the music i play. i wish i could use an aquapuss but i use a 400MS delay and it only does 300MS...so i have a carbon copy for my JMP since it's like the little brother to the puss. the fat sandwich is cool but for those brown sound crunch tones i have my JMp so i don't really need it, despite liking it. so i'm a fan of most of them but from a need standpoint this is the first one to make my board. now let's hope the camel toe comes out next!

JEM...i had it hyped up in my head and was psyched the minute i heard about it and i'm real glad it lived up to my own self built hype haha. i'm not sure on street price i called in a favor with a friend and got one real fast and not so much for street price. i think it should be in that $120-$150 range like all the other WH pedals.

TO...it's certainly one worth checking out IMO.

Agileguy...yeah i'd take it over a stock TS9 for sure. just the ability to tailor the low end alone makes it worth it IMO.

astro...yup it comes in the cool comic box with the pins too. i had to get a pic of them since they were a cool bonus. as mentioned earlier i'm not sure what the street price will be but i think it's in the range of the other WH pedals of $120 - $150. i have a super overdrive...it collects lots of dust haha. it's been shelved by many pedals to be honest and this one would certainly boot it off my board if it hadn't been booted by another one already. every time i use the SD-1 i like it and have no real complaints until i try a different pedal (right now i'm using a Nova Drive with my JMP for example) and i can instantly hear it's shortcomings and i guess you could call it blandness for lack of a better word when i switch to another pedal. i can never really get into boss pedals in general. i tend to tire of them quickly. my boards are pretty much all MXR and TC Electronic so i'm no boutique pedal snob either.
 
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The street price is $130. That's a steal considering an Ibanez TS-9 is $100.
 
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Excellent review and much appreciated...I want another pedal and now my head is being scratched...This pedal is within musician;s price reach,but the Boiling Point is $350 if I decide on that one?
 
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Looking forward to put this pedal next to my Pork Loin and Fat Sandwich.
 
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Agileguy...yeah i thought it would be in the ballpark of the others. thanks for filling us in on the actual street price.

STRATDELUXER97....sent you a PM.

crguti...i think the rhino boosting the fat sandwich could lead to some real cool tones.

astrozombie...he's stuck between buying two pedals. this or the boiling point which costs nearly 3 times as much as the Rhino and he doesn't know which to get.
 
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I think the street price on the Green Rhino can be called "competitive".
I am pretty sure the Green Rhino is going to sell "Way Huge!" ;)
Stratdeluxer97, if I would be in doubt myself between the Green Rhino and the Boiling Point I guess I would give the Green Rhino a shot first because of the price difference between the two.
If it would not bring you the sounds you are after, I guess you could always sell it without losing too much money, if it should bring you the sounds you are after, you got a great deal! ;)
 
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Oh, I didn't know the Boiling Point was a pedal! :lmao:

I'd get this. I think that much money on a drive pedal is.. insane. unless theres actual EL34s in it or something!
 
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I think the Boiling Point is a terrible pedal! The Green Rhino sounds much more interesting.
 
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I know the sound is what matter, BUT: I find it very ugly to boot.
I don't mind the swirl paint, but the lack of legends is annoying. I played one not too long ago through a sweet setup: Thorn guitar into a Plexi reissue (also played it with the same guitar into a Marshall Major and a JMP II). The Boiling Point sounded very meh compared to my Klon, BB Preamp, and Thundertomate boost.
 
Re: Hello Green Rhino...a long review...

Agileguy...yeah i thought it would be in the ballpark of the others. thanks for filling us in on the actual street price.

STRATDELUXER97....sent you a PM.

crguti...i think the rhino boosting the fat sandwich could lead to some real cool tones.

astrozombie...he's stuck between buying two pedals. this or the boiling point which costs nearly 3 times as much as the Rhino and he doesn't know which to get.

Thanks for the pm and the info Mike..
 
Re: Hello Green Rhino...a long review...

I think the street price on the Green Rhino can be called "competitive".
I am pretty sure the Green Rhino is going to sell "Way Huge!" ;)
Stratdeluxer97, if I would be in doubt myself between the Green Rhino and the Boiling Point I guess I would give the Green Rhino a shot first because of the price difference between the two.
If it would not bring you the sounds you are after, I guess you could always sell it without losing too much money, if it should bring you the sounds you are after, you got a great deal! ;)

I agree and quite frankly,spending that hard earned dough on a pedal doesn't sit well with me!
 
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