Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

[dotsdad]

I notice that Jazz and FS neck have same DCr and output per the specs on the site. If I swap out the poles on my Jazz with hex screws, will it become a Full Shred? If so, what size hex screws di I need? Who carries them?

 

[STLMTLHD79]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

Well you will only be able to achieve a Jazz/FS hybrid if you replace the fillister screws with hex ones.

 

[dotsdad]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

Are hese the right screws?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-40x1-2-H...732279?hash=item25e855e137:g:W2IAAOSwk1haOTvO

 

[Clint 55]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

The Jazz and Full Shred winds being the same has never been confirmed. I wonder tho!

 

[gregory]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

Have we confirmed they even use the same wire?

Frank Falbo flat out denied they were the same, dispelling the notion that was even going around in the company itself.

[...] the Full Shred is not the exact same coil as the Jazz, was confirmed by me while I worked for the company, because I felt it was important. I had heard that rumor a LOT. Even among people who worked in the company. :laugh2:

 

[Ayrton]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

I think a better question is what do you not like about the Jazz that you feel an FS is going to have? You could swap the Fillisters for hexheads, but it is not going to be a radical change.

 

[dotsdad]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

what do you not like about the Jazz that you feel an FS is going to have?

The jazz is still a bit mushy in this particular guitar. The plain strings are OK, but the wound ones sound like mush with gain.

I tried the 'lower the pickup and raise the poles' trick but that didn't do much for me.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

I’d do a magnet swap to Polished A2 and turn that Jazz into an APH-2.

One of my very favorite neck humbuckers.

 

[gregory]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

A2 in a Jazz = APH-1N. The APH-2N is an overwound version.

Low strings are mushy with gain? Get a Full Shred. Its super tight and articulate and will stay that way with high gain. An APH-1N? Not so much.

If you want a lot of mids with a softened top end with some sag, then reach for the A2. But if you have a Jazz and an A2 on hand, go for it.

Added bonus is you'll get some push in the upper mids.

Down side: your clean tone will suffer.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

If you want a Full Shred just request a trade for a Jazz on the Trading Post.

 

[Discharged]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

I've found the Full Shred neck a very good p'up, specially if you change the hex screws with filister ones and cut'em flush with the baseplate.

IME, putting 1022 screws in the coil closest to the neck and 1010 in the other, and changing the mag with an A4, this mod definately will make it sound dangerously close to a recorded '59 PAF.

Plus, the double screw greatly facilitates the levelling of the inherent output difference between strings, specially important if you use D'Addario Balanced Tension strings, as I do.

/Peter

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

Those two pickups have very different millivolt ratings if you believe the below; ~500 vs. ~700 .

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?278978-Seymour-Duncan-mV-Data

 

[gregory]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

I don't believe that datum for a single second. Even if true, struming an open chord does not characterize normal playing.

And with that in mind, the Full Shred Neck still works well everywhere on the neck with plenty of clarity on stuff below the sixth fret.

 

[gregory]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

What's in the bridge?

 

[dotsdad]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

Bridge is an IM1. It's the guitar in my avatar

I found a post deep in the bowels of the forum recommending #5-40 1/2" long carbon steel hex screws. Hello Home Depot!

 

[DavidRavenMoon]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

Have we confirmed they even use the same wire?

Frank Falbo flat out denied they were the same, dispelling the notion that was even going around in the company itself.

An easy way to confirm that is to weigh the bobbins (not the whole pickup) on a digital scale. If they match, it’s the same amount of wire.

I do this when I’m doing rewinds on vintage pickups. [emoji6]


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[TVFV]

Re: Help convert my Jazz neck to Full Shred.

A jazz that's sound mushy makes me wonder what your amp settings are. I've never heard that pickup being mushy in any circumstances.

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