Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

[Tone Meister]

These were in my parts bin and I believe them to be vintage Strat pickups/pots/switch. Look at these pictures and tell me what you can about the pickup and pot(s).

The pickup has a red dot on bottom, flat poles, and measures a little over 7K. Switch is Oak Grigsby (51993 0251) and all three pots have the same code. NOTE the orientation of the yellow wire on the pickup.

What do I have here?

 

[Tone Meister]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

There are two more pickups that match, but wire colors differ. All have a red dot on bottom.

 

[Adieu]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

Red dot is a position marker, stands for bridge

The bobbins are generic and similar to those used by Fender for a variety of cheap pups over the years, from CBS USA to modern Mexico. The bright yellow wire matches Fender Mexico, but the other wire should be black and the solder blob should be on top

HOWEVER: Flat poles and screws in the bottom and hot wind but not a Texas Special or a Texmex = imho NOT FENDER

GFS / Artec copy of a Texmex, probably


The pots are WAY too shiny to be vintage Fender or vintage-anything... CTS pots look dull and ancient straight from the factory

There are two more pickups that match, but wire colors differ. All have a red dot on bottom.

Definitely not Fender

Red dot on all pickups, if theyre from a set, indicates either careless wire-up-whatever attitude on the assembly line or a knockoff job done by someone who has no idea what they're copying....since the red dot indicates bridge position and serves no other function

 

[Tone Meister]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

The bobbin is Fender though, isn't it? Those pot codes are found on Strats from the early 70's, I believe. I will double check the DC resistance measurement and take pictures of the other 2 pickups

 

[Adieu]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

The bobbin is Fender though, isn't it? Those pot codes are found on Strats from the early 70's, I believe. I will double check the DC resistance measurement and take pictures of the other 2 pickups

The bobbin is a generic part from an outside supplier afaik

Still, no stagger = not fender

 

[Tone Meister]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

Potentiometer Info
This potentiometer was made by
Stackpole Electronics, Inc.
in the 41st week of 1974

This means that (given this is an original part) this is the earliest possible date your guitar (speaker) was made.

 

[Tone Meister]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

That's cool, I had no idea that all Fender pickups had staggered polls

 

[Mark Cearlock]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

That's cool, I had no idea that all Fender pickups had staggered polls

They don't.. Check out duo sonic, musicmaster, bronco, and mustang pickups..(all flat poles) BUT- none of them use that bobbin or wire in the pic...

 

[Adieu]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

Although.... bottoms are rusty, tops arent

Perhaps someone filed them down when they cleaned em up

They don't.. Check out duo sonic, musicmaster, bronco, and mustang pickups..(all flat poles) BUT- none of them use that bobbin or wire in the pic...

I was under the impression a strat set was being discussed though?

 

[Mark Cearlock]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

Although.... bottoms are rusty, tops arent

Perhaps someone filed them down when they cleaned em up



I was under the impression a strat set was being discussed though?

Just trying to clarify, in case the op misunderstood.

 

[Tone Meister]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

FWIW, here is some info from someone who isn't guessing. Also of NOTE: the factory fitted screws on bottom are to increase inductance and thus output. An email from Fender Customer Relations confirmed this information. Pots are 1974 Stackpoles and do not belong in a harness with these pickups.

American Standard/Series bridge pickups up to mid 2000s had white/yellow wires with the white hot, yellow ground, Tex-Mex bridge pickups have black/yellow wires.

The fat screws are factory fitted.

 

[Tone Meister]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

More specifically, these are Fender Deltatone pickups

https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/The_Fender_Delta_Tone_System_Part_1

 

[TennBlues]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

Minus the red dot mark, looks just like my fender delta tones out of my 97 American Standard. DC Resistance on my bridge is 7.30.

 

[Mark Cearlock]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

Glad we got this cleared up! (and we can always learn something new can't we?)

 

[Tone Meister]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

Glad we got this cleared up! (and we can always learn something new can't we?)

Absolutely! This place is a great resource.

Minus the red dot mark, looks just like my fender delta tones out of my 97 American Standard. DC Resistance on my bridge is 7.30.

This one disconnected from the circuit measures 7.4K DCR on a Fluke meter

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Help ID Strat pickup & harness parts

They don't.. Check out duo sonic, musicmaster, bronco, and mustang pickups..(all flat poles) BUT- none of them use that bobbin or wire in the pic...

Just in case anyone cares- 60s/70s Mustang etc. pickups aren't simply non-staggered- the magnet is actually flat with the bobbin to accommodate the cover whereas they peek up a bit on un-staggered Strats.

Also- plastic bobbins were used in later Mustangs. The stagger was even somewhat present so I think it's still safe to say you can expect these to not be flat-pole unless they were pushed:

https://jakewildwood.blogspot.com/2016/09/parts-early-1980s-fender-mustangstrat.html?m=1