Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

The "R" and "F" are stamped on the baseplates just because they have different polepiece spacings. At that time, China wasn't making p'ups, so those are most probably Korean and the same nameless factories provided unmarked p'ups to the whole world. I stand firm with my assessment of those being cheap contraptions put'em there just to be able to sell the guitar. Was it a pawnshop find, by any chance?

/Peter

No, Guitar Center. So this could be Artec, G&B, or lower.

I will measure the polepiece spacings on both today. Thanks BTW for all the insight into this rig.

Brash
 
Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

And here is what it looked like from the factory

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Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

And here is what it looked like from the factory

Mine has the "wave" headstock instead of the lawsuit style shown in the ad. And those are sho-nuff Magnaflux humbuckers in the ad. Tough to find, those little muthas.

Thanks for posting it!
 
Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

Spacing on mystery Korean F and R pickups:

Bridge (marked F) - 50 mm
NECK (marked R) - 52 mm

LOL, they are wired in the wrong positions, that is, reversed. And I didn't even notice the spacing issue.

Some guitar guy I am. :haha:

Now, I just need to find replacement humbuckers for the original Magnaflux ones. Anybody know what the DC resistance or inductance of the old Magnafluxes were?
 
Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

2 guys brought back the Electra name in 2013. They made a vintage output magnaflux, and they were gonna make a 14k magnaflux too. If you want the original ones, I wonder how long you're going to have to wait for a set of those to come up for sale. That or buy a guitar thats got em. I was gonna say too, that was built at Matsumoku I'm pretty sure. Good Luck.
 
Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

2 guys brought back the Electra name in 2013. They made a vintage output magnaflux, and they were gonna make a 14k magnaflux too. If you want the original ones, I wonder how long you're going to have to wait for a set of those to come up for sale. That or buy a guitar thats got em. I was gonna say too, that was built at Matsumoku I'm pretty sure. Good Luck.

Yeah, I think they were Matsumoku, too. Thanks for the new Electra suggestion, but I'd much rather put the right ones in.
 
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Have you thought of taking the cover off of the 52mm spaced pickup (the actual bridge pup)? Maybe the square poles are under the cover? I'll throw this out too, somewhere I saw somebody came up with the idea to use a dremel tool with a cutting wheel and cut the solder between the cover and the baseplate so you aren't losing potting wax. Then they put the pup in a vise end to end and put a little pressure on the cover, expanding the sides out so the pup comes out easier. Just a thought. Your covers kinda don't look like they were soldered at a factory though. I guess I should tell you too, I've got 12 MMK 45's sitting here that I've pulled out. They all have brass baseplates with MMK stamped into the metal and then 45 ink-stamped under the MMK with a rectangle inkstamp around the 45 too. The wire casings (that contain the actual lead wires) are red and green. Can't remember which was which for bridge and neck. The actual lead wires are red, white and bare. Just noticed all the baseplate legs are short too. No idea if the magnafluxes woulda been done like that or not.
 
Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

Have you thought of taking the cover off of the 52mm spaced pickup (the actual bridge pup)? Maybe the square poles are under the cover? I'll throw this out too, somewhere I saw somebody came up with the idea to use a dremel tool with a cutting wheel and cut the solder between the cover and the baseplate so you aren't losing potting wax. Then they put the pup in a vise end to end and put a little pressure on the cover, expanding the sides out so the pup comes out easier. Just a thought. Your covers kinda don't look like they were soldered at a factory though. I guess I should tell you too, I've got 12 MMK 45's sitting here that I've pulled out. They all have brass baseplates with MMK stamped into the metal and then 45 ink-stamped under the MMK with a rectangle inkstamp around the 45 too. The wire casings (that contain the actual lead wires) are red and green. Can't remember which was which for bridge and neck. The actual lead wires are red, white and bare. Just noticed all the baseplate legs are short too. No idea if the magnafluxes woulda been done like that or not.

Thanks, great suggestion. On the other hand, Peter thinks they are generic OEM's, which is what I new suspect, also. I think I am unlikely to get lucky and find a Magnaflux under the hood. OTOH, i have no idea what the underside of a vintage Magnaflux looks like...
 
Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

Spacing on mystery Korean F and R pickups:

Bridge (marked F) - 50 mm
NECK (marked R) - 52 mm

LOL, they are wired in the wrong positions, that is, reversed. And I didn't even notice the spacing issue.

Some guitar guy I am. :haha:

Now, I just need to find replacement humbuckers for the original Magnaflux ones. Anybody know what the DC resistance or inductance of the old Magnafluxes were?

No, the "F" stands for "front" which is the neck pup. The "R" stands for "rear" which is the bridge pup.
 
Re: Help identifying a Japanese humbuckers, pls?

WHAT??!!!

I was wrong about the pups, they were much hotter than they sounded to my ear. Also, it appears the Magnaflux were hotter than PAF-style vintage, but maybe not as high as 15 DCR.

No, the "F" stands for "front" which is the neck pup. The "R" stands for "rear" which is the bridge pup.

Right, but the thing is wired wrong. The R is in the neck position, the F in the bridge.
 
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