Help, I've bought a Mesa

[Uk Ant]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

So let's get this straight - you play 'classic' rock and blues and you prefer a Boogie to a Cornford ? Kind of confirms the opinion that I was starting to form that you are a total f**kwit. Two weeks from now you'll be whinging again.

Well Mr Parker, it seems your opinion on what people should use to find THEIR OWN TONE is based purely on what you think THEIR OWN TONE should be.

You have just acted in the worst possible manner and your comments are deeply offensive.

I suggest not to bother making any further comments unless they actually say something constructive.

You really have acted like a bigoted peasant

 

[Uk Ant]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Sorry I couldn't make your gig btw How'd it go?

Pretty well, although not a great turn out, then again the weather was lovely so suspect many BBQ's were going on.

We're playing the Old Volunteer in Nottingham on the 16th if your interested.

 

[FuseG4]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

You really have acted like a bigoted peasant

which we all no is nowhere near as cool as a pheasant, bigoted or not.

No, really though, Mr. Parker It's one thing if you disagree with someone's amp choice but you gotta find a way to be more respectful about it. We don't slam people like that here.

Mr. Ant can use any amp he pleases however he wants and if he likes it, it's great, and if he doesn't like it, he'll go do something about it. Don't sit on here and act like like you know what he needs better than him.

 

[d1dsj]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Hey Ant, that sounds cool... I didn't even know they did a head version! Any pics? How big is it? I'm assuming it's kind of midi... i.e a little bigger than a T.T and smaller than say a Marshall small box 50? Sounds ideal in any case.

 

[Uk Ant]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Not a pic of my actual amp as I've not dug the camera out. It's quite dinky thing (19" wide) but quite deep.
Only bad points so far are the hard wired pedal and power lead... but not exactly a huge problem

 

[d1dsj]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

To be honest Ant, I think you've had a bargain.... and it is a rare amp (here at least) to boot. Nice one!

 

[eschoendorff]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

So let's get this straight - you play 'classic' rock and blues and you prefer a Boogie to a Cornford ? Kind of confirms the opinion that I was starting to form that you are a total f**kwit. Two weeks from now you'll be whinging again.

WTF was that???

Your stock just went down 20 points... :disappoin

 

[Kosh Naranek]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

I want one!!
I second the comments that not all Mesa's are the fizzy, mid-scooped Rectifiers. Actually, I've been around long enough that to me, the original "signature" Mesa/Boogie tone was the ultra-fat, ultra crunchy, mid-boosted tone of many 80's metal guitarists, as well as fusion guys like Scott Henderson, Allan Holdsworth, and Frank Gambale in the 80's. I guess that would have been the Mark 2 and Mark 3 tone. Or one of their 80's rack preamps into one of their 80's tube power amps.

But regardless of their "signature" tone, they have all sorts of amps available for all sorts of tastes. I recently plugged into an ElectraDyne at a local dealer. A very cool amp designed to get the sound of Brit amps from the 60's and 70's.

I myself own a Formula rack premp. The Formula wasn't one of Mesa's best received pieces of gear, but I'm discovering more and more that it really sounds good on recorded tracks. The clean channel is fabulous, with a bluesy breakup when you turn up the gain. But the Lead 1 channel, like a few of their newer amps, really captures the crunch of a 70's Marshall. The breakup is smooth, the crunch is tight, but there isn't the buzzy, sustaining, compressed sound that was more in vogue in the 80's.

 

[bungalowbill]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

I second the comments that not all Mesa's are the fizzy, mid-scooped Rectifiers.

Not all Dual Recs are fizzy and mid-scooped. My Boogie is all about the mids.

 

[Kosh Naranek]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Not all Dual Recs are fizzy and mid-scooped. My Boogie is all about the mids.

A good point. And many of the bigger Rectifier series amps have faceplates bristling with 3 position switches to let you get several voicings from each channel - everything from blues to classic rock to those death metal and nu metal tones that the amps are known for.

Anyone ever plug into a Lone Star? Wow!! Greasy, ultimate blues tone!!

 

[JeffB]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Rectifiers can get some really nice "non fizz" tones. It's all how you dial them, lower on the gain, higher on thee volume, give them some mids, experiment with the switches, etc. And the speakers are key as well- I got excellent non brootalz tone out of a dual rec once through a Peavey 5150 cab, I liked it MUCH better than the oversized MESA V30 cab (though of course the MESA cab was a better build).

I had an F50 that was an excellent amp (one of the best clean channels I've ever experienced), and BITD a 22 cal. I also came very close to buying a F30 to replace the F50 (prolly my fave MESA next to the Stiletto) I'm def more geared towards the british side of things tonally (i.e. Marshall and derivatives), but MESA has a flavor for ALL types of players and if you tweak enough you can usually pull something out of one, that you'd NEVER figure it could do. The day I bought my PRS SC250 a few years back, I jacked a Boss OD1 into a Lonestar special, and had 3 guys come into the amp room at the shop that thought I was playing through the (then new) Marshall Vintage Modern combo they just got in.

I'd be all over that new TransAtlantic- that thing does a good tweed-ish type tone and a nice tight marshally sound as well. Even at 5 watts though the thing is way too loud for my home sitch- it needs some volume to give up the goods.

 

[BluesGuyJ]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Mesa makes great stuff... I am a damn idiot for seeling my Mesa Mark III blue striple combo loaded with all features, would match up with my playing style amazingly right now

 

[Jessie Sammler]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

So let's get this straight - you play 'classic' rock and blues and you prefer a Boogie to a Cornford ? Kind of confirms the opinion that I was starting to form that you are a total f**kwit. Two weeks from now you'll be whinging again.

What's wrong? Are you offended because he didn't like the Cornhole amp?

 

[Diego]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Come on Richard, you're better than that. Were you drunk or something?

With that said, I'm glad you found a good amp for yourself.
Branding is irrelevant, and even more so when it's Mesa we're talking about,
because it's a quality brand and they're so versatile it's nonsense to point them at one particular style of music, or playing.

 

[eschoendorff]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

I want one!!
I second the comments that not all Mesa's are the fizzy, mid-scooped Rectifiers. Actually, I've been around long enough that to me, the original "signature" Mesa/Boogie tone was the ultra-fat, ultra crunchy, mid-boosted tone of many 80's metal guitarists, as well as fusion guys like Scott Henderson, Allan Holdsworth, and Frank Gambale in the 80's. I guess that would have been the Mark 2 and Mark 3 tone. Or one of their 80's rack preamps into one of their 80's tube power amps.

But regardless of their "signature" tone, they have all sorts of amps available for all sorts of tastes. I recently plugged into an ElectraDyne at a local dealer. A very cool amp designed to get the sound of Brit amps from the 60's and 70's.

I myself own a Formula rack premp. The Formula wasn't one of Mesa's best received pieces of gear, but I'm discovering more and more that it really sounds good on recorded tracks. The clean channel is fabulous, with a bluesy breakup when you turn up the gain. But the Lead 1 channel, like a few of their newer amps, really captures the crunch of a 70's Marshall. The breakup is smooth, the crunch is tight, but there isn't the buzzy, sustaining, compressed sound that was more in vogue in the 80's.

That's the Mesa sound I knew growing up. The Recto was just gaining popularity when I bought my first Mesa. I settled on a Dual Caliber 50W - because of price/performance ratio. The thing did many sounds well (NO fizz!!!) - and to this day doesn't sound exactly like anything else out there.

Cornford amps... I'm not familiar (don't really give a sheit either). But just the name alone conjures up this in my mind:

 

[Uk Ant]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

eschoendorff that's harsh, as they do make nice amps.
Still funny mind

 

[tone4days]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

happy for you

yeah, nice piece of kit that one is ... best of luck with it and enjoy!!

i havent given the transatlantic a go yet, but suspect it would be pretty gas inducing too

i feel fortunate to be old enough to remember where boogies came from before the numetal rectumfrier bit ... i saw gambale live from 4 feet away playing his mesa gear and it was most definitely NOT midscooped ... i saw lee ritenour with his roadking and his tones were beautiful ... my roadster is till missed and the lonestar special was also really incredible even at low volumes (beautiful cleans)

they always seem to take pedals well too

but yeah, boogies tend to be LOUD

cheers
t4d

 

[Brow]

Re: Help, I've bought a Mesa

Pretty well, although not a great turn out, then again the weather was lovely so suspect many BBQ's were going on.

We're playing the Old Volunteer in Nottingham on the 16th if your interested.

I go on holiday on the 11th and I'm not back until the 18th, so will have to give it a miss I'm afraid

Hope it goes ok though and that you carry on enjoying the amp