Help me built an EVH style Wet/Dry/Wet rig (with what I have)

[Gtrjunior]

I do have a Mobius. (And a timeline)

Forum bro SFW shared these with me a while back. I wasn’t looking for that VH tone but on my experimenting I noticed that if I turned the mix up it really got close to it.
Play around with these and see what you can come up with.

 

[LLL]

Using a W/D/W rig is simply like bring the studio to a live show.

In the studio/DAW, you typically pipe the dry guitar track out to another buss track with reverb, delay, Eventide, etc... then blend with fader.

If I were doing W/D/W, this would be how (note: no need for amp FX loop when doing this):

guitar
|
stomps before amp
|
amp
| (amp speaker out)
Suhr ISO Line Out -> dry speaker cab
| (Suhr ISO Line Out line out)
Stereo FX (rack or stomp; chorus, reverb, delay, Eventide, etc)
| |
Stereo power amp
| |
L R wet speaker cabs

You don't need a mixer at all; that's overkill

 

[LLL]

It's that simple.

 

[PFDarkside]

Using a W/D/W rig is simply like bring the studio to a live show.

In the studio/DAW, you typically pipe the dry guitar track out to another buss track with reverb, delay, Eventide, etc... then blend with fader.

If I were doing W/D/W, this would be how (note: no need for amp FX loop when doing this):

guitar
|
stomps before amp
|
amp
| (amp speaker out)
Suhr ISO Line Out -> dry speaker cab
| (Suhr ISO Line Out line out)
Stereo FX (rack or stomp; chorus, reverb, delay, Eventide, etc)
| |
Stereo power amp
| |
L R wet speaker cabs

You don't need a mixer at all; that's overkill

So basically the only difference between what I posted and your proposal is to swap from Suhr Buffer to Suhr Iso Out and move it from effects loop to post Poweramp, right?

 

[LLL]

So basically the only difference between what I posted and your proposal is to swap from Suhr Buffer to Suhr Iso Out and move it from effects loop to post Poweramp, right?

Roughly, I suppose.

I looked at your diagram and it didn't quite make sense with the lines... nor the "returning the signal to the Splawn" statement.

I don't know how the Splawn is configured as far as the FX loop goes, but you're guaranteed the full monty of preamp, phase inverter and power amp tubes in the signal going out - if you use a Line Out box (like the Suhr), for the obvious reason that you'd use a Speaker Out jack into the given Line Out box.

You simply need to tap a line out signal from your amp - use a Line Out Box (from your amp Speaker Output) that provides a Line Out plus a Speaker Out (to go to your dry cab)

 

[dystrust]

Roughly, I suppose.

I looked at your diagram and it didn't quite make sense with the lines... nor the "returning the signal to the Splawn" statement.

I don't know how the Splawn is configured as far as the FX loop goes, but you're guaranteed the full monty of preamp, phase inverter and power amp tubes in the signal going out - if you use a Line Out box (like the Suhr), for the obvious reason that you'd use a Speaker Out jack into the given Line Out box.

You simply need to tap a line out signal from your amp - use a Line Out Box (from your amp Speaker Output) that provides a Line Out plus a Speaker Out (to go to your dry cab)

I use the Two Notes Torpedo Captor for something similar in my rig; though I'm recording the line out signal. The differences are that I run my effects through my amp's loop because I'm going for a slightly more lo-fi sound, and I can safely unplug the speaker cabinet for silent recording.

 

[Top-L]

Roughly, I suppose.

I looked at your diagram and it didn't quite make sense with the lines... nor the "returning the signal to the Splawn" statement.

I don't know how the Splawn is configured as far as the FX loop goes, but you're guaranteed the full monty of preamp, phase inverter and power amp tubes in the signal going out - if you use a Line Out box (like the Suhr), for the obvious reason that you'd use a Speaker Out jack into the given Line Out box.

You simply need to tap a line out signal from your amp - use a Line Out Box (from your amp Speaker Output) that provides a Line Out plus a Speaker Out (to go to your dry cab)

Behringer Ultra G does the same thing, and the cab sim is surprisingly good if not disabled.

 

[IMENATOR]

To me the idea of having delay and mod at the beginning defeats the idea of wet-dry-wet as the FX will get propagated on all 3 speakers, but I am sure that is gonna be a huge sound anyway.

 

[PFDarkside]

To me the idea of having delay and mod at the beginning defeats the idea of wet-dry-wet as the FX will get propagated on all 3 speakers, but I am sure that is gonna be a huge sound anyway.

The stomps serve to replicate the earlier 70’s type sounds straight in (I prefer phaser and flanger in front of the amp, then Echoplex for a Slapback) then the rack/wet tone would be reverb, more broad digital delay, detune, chorus, etc. That’s the theory anyway.

In my smaller, all pedal setup I go Wah, Fuzz, compression, Univibe, phase and flanger ahead of the distortion, then delay after. We’ll see and pedal chains are flexible.