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cal45

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good morning I would like to have the following scheme: 1 prails 1 humb 1 3-way toggle 1 volume 1 tone push pull
thans

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good morning I would like to have the following scheme: 1 prails 1 humb 1 3-way toggle 1 volume 1 tone push pull
thans

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Is the Prails going to be in Neck position or Bridge position on the guitar?

What do you want the push-pull to do? If it is for for the P-Rails pickup, which 2 of the 4 results do you want?
1. both coils in series (traditional humbucker wiring).
2. Both coils in parallel (humbucking but thinner sounding than In Series)
3. Just the Rails coil
4. Just the P90 coil

What is the make and model of the other humbucker?
 
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Is the Prails going to be in Neck position or Bridge position on the guitar?

What do you want the push-pull to do?

What is the make and model of the humbucker?

the prails is in neck position
normal p90 and sigle coil
the humb in the bridge position is custom duncan 4 wire.
sorry for my english I am italian
thanks
 
the prails is in neck position
normal p90 and sigle coil
the humb in the bridge position is custom duncan 4 wire.
sorry for my english I am italian
thanks

When you wrote that you want the push-pull to change the prail so it is "normal p90 and singlecoil", do you mean 3 modes (1 = "normal" humbucker, 2 = prail, and 3= rail coil)? Or did you mean just 2 modes (1 = P90 and 2 = rail coil)? One push-pull can only provide 2 modes. Two push-pulls can be wired together to give you the 3... and if you want, also a fourh mode (coils In Parallel)....
 
I would suggest getting a Triple Shot mounting ring. Then you could have series, parallel, P-90, and rail choices all from the P-Rail pup.
 
Cal45,


When you wrote that you want the push-pull to change the prail so it is "normal p90 and singlecoil", do you mean 3 modes (1 = "normal" humbucker, 2 = prail, and 3= rail coil)? Or did you mean just 2 modes (1 = P90 and 2 = rail coil)? One push-pull can only provide 2 modes. Two push-pulls can be wired together to give you the 3... and if you want, also a fourh mode (coils In Parallel)....
 
I'd do it like this. (Someone else check me if it's right.)

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We're still waiting for the OP to confirm he only wanted 2 modes out of the PRail, but assuming that they did:

1. that push-pull wiring needs a tweak. The P90 coil's wires are Black (+) and White (-), and the Rail coil's wires are Red (+) and Green (-). So Top Left lug needs to get the Red wire and White wire moves to where Red wire was.

2. The Ground and Hot wires on the 3 way Toggle switch are reversed.

3. Also, the Hot wires from each pickup to the 3 way Toggle switch are reversed.
 
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Yeah, Jack's right on all points here. And to keep it very simple, you could even have the green and white wires go permanently to ground (no need to switch them), only switching the leads of each coil.
 
We're still waiting for the OP to confirm he only wanted 2 modes out of the PRail, but assuming that they did:

1. that push-pull wiring needs a tweak. The P90 coil's wires are Black (+) and White (-), and the Rail coil's wires are Red (+) and Green (-). So Top Left lug needs to get the Red wire and White wire moves to where Red wire was.

2. The Ground and Hot wires on the 3 way Toggle switch are reversed.

3. Also, the Hot wires from each pickup to the 3 way Toggle switch are reversed.

1. Thanks.
2. actually, the switch drawing has the hot coming off the wrong side (sourced it from other drawings), but if you look at the blades, it's right. The thick lug in the center is ground. The two thin blades on each side are hot and have to be soldered together.
3. Right, was thinking blade and not looking at a real toggle at the time. Thanks.
 
Let's see if this fixes it. A few more crossed wires, and hard to see all the ones running to ground, but should be as described previously. Someone else can make a better one if this doesn't suffice.

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Let's see if this fixes it. A few more crossed wires, and hard to see all the ones running to ground, but should be as described previously. Someone else can make a better one if this doesn't suffice.

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Good work, but still needs the Hot lead wires from each pickup swapped around on the 3 Way Toggle switch.
 
If ya add a push pul volume ya can get all 4 options, which is a good thing for the p-rail because it is such an awesome p’up...
 
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