Help me write metal
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krankguitarist
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Re: Help me write metal
Best way to do it is listen to a lot of metal, and pick up on stuff from that.
Best way to do it is listen to a lot of metal, and pick up on stuff from that.
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Help me write metal
Yeah, basically, just immerse yourself in it. Learn metal songs, get the general techniques down (trem picking, harmonizations, solid downstroke rhythm stuff, etc), listen to it a lot, and eventually, you'll be creating it.
Also, what some people overlook is that when you listen to something while sleeping, your subconscious takes it in and it can/will affect your playing and whatnot. It'll influence you, at least.
Then again, this is comming from the guy who falls asleep to bands whose names you couldn't say in Church.
Yeah, basically, just immerse yourself in it. Learn metal songs, get the general techniques down (trem picking, harmonizations, solid downstroke rhythm stuff, etc), listen to it a lot, and eventually, you'll be creating it.
Also, what some people overlook is that when you listen to something while sleeping, your subconscious takes it in and it can/will affect your playing and whatnot. It'll influence you, at least.
Then again, this is comming from the guy who falls asleep to bands whose names you couldn't say in Church.
Schecter006Elite
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Re: Help me write metal
Learn songs from bands you want to play like. This will affect the way you write songs the most. Also, practice your picking A LOT!!!!! Make sure your holding your pick correctly and practice trem picking, gallop-picking, and look into sweeping for excersizes, but you dont have to apply the sweep picking. Learn the E Locrian Mode and the E Phyrigian Mode. Practice basic scales like the minor pentatonics and blues pentatonics. DEVELOPE YOUR LEGATO FOR BETTER SOLO'S!!!! cant emphasize that enough. Speed is key buddy.
Learn songs from bands you want to play like. This will affect the way you write songs the most. Also, practice your picking A LOT!!!!! Make sure your holding your pick correctly and practice trem picking, gallop-picking, and look into sweeping for excersizes, but you dont have to apply the sweep picking. Learn the E Locrian Mode and the E Phyrigian Mode. Practice basic scales like the minor pentatonics and blues pentatonics. DEVELOPE YOUR LEGATO FOR BETTER SOLO'S!!!! cant emphasize that enough. Speed is key buddy.
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seafoamer
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Re: Help me write metal
try not to write metal.
try to spawn, or spew it.
try not to write metal.
try to spawn, or spew it.
DankStar
Her Little Mojo Minion
Re: Help me write metal
I like http://www.wholenote.com (go to lessons, then metal) for goofing around. It's not like you use the lessons people post there to write a song, but you'll play a little scale run or riff and next thing you know you're making up two or three riffs of your own.
In general, record every riff you make up that even has a remote chance of survival for a song. If you're figuring out Metallica's "battery" and for two seconds you played something that sounded cool but wasn't really the song - stop learning battery and start goofing with that melody until you have your own riff.
Compile about 20 or 30 riffs in a week or two. Don't dwell on them, just keep recording them and making new ones up. Then listen to them all back to back, tossing out any that you realize may be too close to existing riffs you know that snuck in there subliminally.
Then pick out about 5 riffs that fit, adjust the keys of some where needed, figure out what's your intro, main riffs, chorus, bridge, etc., and bang - you got your metal song.
I like http://www.wholenote.com (go to lessons, then metal) for goofing around. It's not like you use the lessons people post there to write a song, but you'll play a little scale run or riff and next thing you know you're making up two or three riffs of your own.
In general, record every riff you make up that even has a remote chance of survival for a song. If you're figuring out Metallica's "battery" and for two seconds you played something that sounded cool but wasn't really the song - stop learning battery and start goofing with that melody until you have your own riff.
Compile about 20 or 30 riffs in a week or two. Don't dwell on them, just keep recording them and making new ones up. Then listen to them all back to back, tossing out any that you realize may be too close to existing riffs you know that snuck in there subliminally.
Then pick out about 5 riffs that fit, adjust the keys of some where needed, figure out what's your intro, main riffs, chorus, bridge, etc., and bang - you got your metal song.
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neosadist
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Re: Help me write metal
In terms of metal bass riffs, check out some string quartet music. I remember some of Bach's fugues for strings (quartet or otherwise) having some nice cello riffs that work out very nice on guitar and sound rather nice. Nothing wrong with borrowing if it shows that you're well-listened musically speaking, and so long as you tell people where it came from.
In terms of metal bass riffs, check out some string quartet music. I remember some of Bach's fugues for strings (quartet or otherwise) having some nice cello riffs that work out very nice on guitar and sound rather nice. Nothing wrong with borrowing if it shows that you're well-listened musically speaking, and so long as you tell people where it came from.
Metalman_666
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Re: Help me write metal
About the subliminal listening thing, it's actually a bad idea to overload your brain while you're sleeping. While it may work, sleep is the time the brain uses to rest and recuperate from the day you've had, so it's not a great idea to add more for it to absorb. Either way I would probably take your advice just because you write such kickass songs
What I find works for me is just learning as much of what I like to listen to as I can. Then when I'm learning sometimes I'll stop in between songs and play something off the top of my head that works.
Interestingly enough, when I'm at work riffs just pop into my head and I quickly write them down. I guess working at a meat shop is just inspiring?
DeadSkinSlayer3 said:
About the subliminal listening thing, it's actually a bad idea to overload your brain while you're sleeping. While it may work, sleep is the time the brain uses to rest and recuperate from the day you've had, so it's not a great idea to add more for it to absorb. Either way I would probably take your advice just because you write such kickass songs
What I find works for me is just learning as much of what I like to listen to as I can. Then when I'm learning sometimes I'll stop in between songs and play something off the top of my head that works.
Interestingly enough, when I'm at work riffs just pop into my head and I quickly write them down. I guess working at a meat shop is just inspiring?
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DeadSkinSlayer3
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Re: Help me write metal
Dude I do this at school all the time! I tab stuff out just based on where I think it'll be fretted, and it works out great. Just the act of writing it down helps engrave it into your memory. I hum **** into my phone's voice recorder, too.
Hell, my buddy Shane in Backmask calls his own answering machine and hums melodies and crap when he needs to remember them.
Metalman_666 said:
Dude I do this at school all the time! I tab stuff out just based on where I think it'll be fretted, and it works out great. Just the act of writing it down helps engrave it into your memory. I hum **** into my phone's voice recorder, too.
Hell, my buddy Shane in Backmask calls his own answering machine and hums melodies and crap when he needs to remember them.
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seafoamer
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Re: Help me write metal
Although having "The Exorcist" dvd playing while ur sleeping prolly can't hurt.
Although having "The Exorcist" dvd playing while ur sleeping prolly can't hurt.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Help me write metal
Start by tuning down to B or C, then let the guitar feed back for awhile.
Start by tuning down to B or C, then let the guitar feed back for awhile.
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TrippyVinylologist
Re: Help me write metal
Guitar World Presents (magazine on the shelf now) DVD from Future Media (?). Gives Metal lessons and examples from the 60's/70's through the new millenium, about 90 minutes worth.
To get you started try drop D tuning and F# Aeolian or Pentatonic modes.
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Guitar World Presents (magazine on the shelf now) DVD from Future Media (?). Gives Metal lessons and examples from the 60's/70's through the new millenium, about 90 minutes worth.
To get you started try drop D tuning and F# Aeolian or Pentatonic modes.
guitarworld.com
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vinterland
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Re: Help me write metal
Leather pants..... check!
Cut off sleeve Skid Row shirt..... check!
Hair...... check!
At least 37 different guitar faces..... check!
Hail metal at least 57 times a day.... check!
Now you can write...
Leather pants..... check!
Cut off sleeve Skid Row shirt..... check!
Hair...... check!
At least 37 different guitar faces..... check!
Hail metal at least 57 times a day.... check!
Now you can write...
Re: Help me write metal
I agree. If you are set on a particular style then start covering some of the artists. Building a standard repetoire is very important for experience. People who just start out trying to write stuff from the get go usually end up trying to create something new, but in the meantime have nothing to play! They never ever really write anything that they can live with either! LOL! It's like a double waste of time! Thats not good for learning/gaining experience.
If you really want to be a Metal writer then you need to understand that everything comes from somewhere. After covering for a few years you should have a firm grasp of the style. From there you can venture out on your own.
I agree. If you are set on a particular style then start covering some of the artists. Building a standard repetoire is very important for experience. People who just start out trying to write stuff from the get go usually end up trying to create something new, but in the meantime have nothing to play! They never ever really write anything that they can live with either! LOL! It's like a double waste of time! Thats not good for learning/gaining experience.
If you really want to be a Metal writer then you need to understand that everything comes from somewhere. After covering for a few years you should have a firm grasp of the style. From there you can venture out on your own.
metal
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Re: Help me write metal
you are wrong sir! the brain has the same activity while sleeping or awake, people use to think that when sleeping your brain was resting but this is wrong its a fact that the brain never rests, we been over the brain activity and the stages of sleep in my psyc. college course!
Metalman_666 said:About the subliminal listening thing, it's actually a bad idea to overload your brain while you're sleeping. While it may work, sleep is the time the brain uses to rest and recuperate from the day you've had, so it's not a great idea to add more for it to absorb. Either way I would probably take your advice just because you write such kickass songs
What I find works for me is just learning as much of what I like to listen to as I can. Then when I'm learning sometimes I'll stop in between songs and play something off the top of my head that works.
Interestingly enough, when I'm at work riffs just pop into my head and I quickly write them down. I guess working at a meat shop is just inspiring?
you are wrong sir! the brain has the same activity while sleeping or awake, people use to think that when sleeping your brain was resting but this is wrong its a fact that the brain never rests, we been over the brain activity and the stages of sleep in my psyc. college course!
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