Help with H-S-H scheme...

[Helldragon]

I have just purchased a set of SD pickups and I don't find the right schematics anywhere.
I Purchased the SH-6 trembucker for the bridge position, a humbucker SH-6 for the neck position and a Vintage Rails for the middle position. I have 1 volume and 1 tone control, and a 5-way switch. Could You Please help me with the schematics??
Of course I would like to keep the original wiring... something like this:

 

[Mephis]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

I'm sure you already know this but I thought I might as well mention it anyway...

Positons 2 and 4 will NOT be hum canceling, and you will end up using those positions more than 3, so you might as well trade the vintage rails in for a regular singlecoil.

 

[Helldragon]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

Maybe it would even be better to connect the bridge and neck pickups that way that they would be parallel wired in the positions 2 & 4...
So the Vintage rails would be used only in the position 3?

 

[Youngpup]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

Maybe it would even be better to connect the bridge and neck pickups that way that they would be parallel wired in the positions 2 & 4...
So the Vintage rails would be used only in the position 3?

I put a push pull on my volume so that I could have my bridge pup on any time, and then you can still have your split and humbuckers.

Tyler

 

[tone4days]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

you need to tell us which switch you are using .. .there are many types of 5 ways

if you have a traditional 5-way .. this schematic is pretty close to what you want (if not exact)
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/hum_sing_hum_vol_tone_spl.html

 

[MikeS]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

You could easily wire it so positions 2 and 4 do not split the neck or bridge, but mephis is right on that 2 & 4 won't be hum cancelling if wired like you've shown. A standard 5 way won't let you have the middle pickup quiet in the notch positions. With a superswitch I'm sure you could find what you are looking for.

If it were me I'd go with a true single coil in the middle position to keep the wiring scheme you illustrated.

edit: t4d: the ibanez switch is not like the fender switch, but if you labelled the terminals before you unsoldered everything you could wire it up like stock. That particular wiring doagram will not be hum cancelling in the notch positions. In that case, the diagram could be followed, the only revision would have to be to solder the red and white together of the VR.

edit 2: the diagram for 3 humbuckers, no splits, would be this one, sans the second tone pot:
http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/3lil_hb_vol_2tones_5way.html

 

[Helldragon]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

Well... the scheme could work, but I also have a tone pot...
And no... I want to keep the Vintage Rails... so I would appreciate every help with the scheme. And because I don't know much about electronics, could anybody tell me, what's a standard 5-way switch? So I could know if it's standard or not.
Anyways, the guitar is An Ibanez RG and I have the switch that came with it...

 

[Frebnedzo]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

The vintage rails (if I recall correctly) is connected in parallel and
really low output. Since each coil on the VR is around 5K, you
can use each of the coils from the VR and get a humcancelling
quack in both 2 and 4. Justuse appropriate coils from the VR
with the splits on the humbuckers.

Then use the VR as is for position 3. Superswitch should be able
to do this no problem.

Or... since the VR is such low resistance, it will dominate the 2 and
4 position WITHOUT any splitting. In other words, just use it as is
and it will be quiet with the hummers.

[point of reference : I have a strat with Cool Rails and I split both
pickups in the 2 and 4 position. Pretty nice vintagy quack].

 

[tone4days]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

edit: t4d: the ibanez switch is not like the fender switch,

yes - i know ... my HSH guitar is an ibby and i had to reuse the stock switch because a superswitch is too deep to fit in the skinny little body ... dunno if a stock fender 5-way would fit in his or not ... mine was close and the RG is a touch thicker than my 540, so he might be ok ...

depending on which ibby stock switch he has, he could do exactly as you suggest to get what he wants

helldragon, are there any markings on the switch that tells its part number? ... if so, let us know ... the schematic in the link i posted is HSH with 1 vol and 1 tone

t4d

 

[Helldragon]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

One question... I see you have a duckbucker in jour 540s in the middle position... how did you connect the pickups on your guitar??
I know the duckbucker works the same as the VR...

 

[tone4days]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

i flipped the mag in my 4-wire '59 N and wired it black = ground, green = hot ...

i used a 3-way mini toggle (on-off-on) to allow for splitting either coil from the '59 or C5 ... i wired it so that when it is 'up' i get the outer coil and when it was 'down' i get the inner coil ...

i use a push/pull volume pot to control what happens when the 5-way is in position 3 ... when it is pushed, i get the duck by itself .. when it is pulled, i get the '59 and C5 together in parallel ... if i use the mini toggle in conjunction with this, i can get the 'prs' options, all humcancelling thanks to the flip and reverse wire

i think you will like the VR even better than the duck because you wont have any volume drop off when you bend strings

hope this helps
t4d

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

Re: Help with H-S-H scheme...

I'd upgrade your blade switch while you are at it. There are many fine switches out there. I am a big fan of the E type Megaswitch in H-S-S and H-S-H instruments