Help with wiring -buzz and no-sounding nPU-

[Perry go round]

Hi to everybody,

I am trying to install 2 seymour duncan pickups with 4 conductors and a pre-wired Page harness into my Epi Les Paul and I am having a problem.
The bridge pickup is souding, but there is a lot of buzz. The neck pickup is not making any sound. Also, no sound at all when selecting both pickups at the same time. I think my problem is with the ground cables of both the neck pickup and the 3-way toggle.
All other connections seem to be ok, but this 3 cables I am not sure where they shoud go. According with a wiring diagram I downloaded from SD webpage, bridge ground should go to tone pot and neck ground to volume pot. Is that right?
Also, from the 3 way toggle I have 5 cables. 2 of them for each pickup and a 3rd for the Jack. These ones seem to be ok. Then, there is a white cable and a bare cable. According with the supplier they have to go together, but I am not sure where.

Does all of this makes any sense? Anyone can help me?

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: Help with wiring -buzz and no-sounding nPU-

Welcome to the forum!

The bridge pickup is souding, but there is a lot of buzz.

Description sounds like the bridge is in single coil mode, indicating the red/white wires are being sent to ground. That would likely be a switch wired the opposite of the default, or an incorrect connection to ground. If there's buzz with it, that would also indicate possible the guitar bridge ground is not connected, or possibly the pickup bare or green ground is not connected to ground.

The neck pickup is not making any sound.

Sounds like red and white are not connected creating the series link for the pickup to work in humbucking mode. That would likely be a bad solder joint.

Also, no sound at all when selecting both pickups at the same time.

Could be when both are selected they are in series (opposite of the default) and the aforementioned neck problem is breaking the circuit.

All other connections seem to be ok, but this 3 cables I am not sure where they shoud go.

I don't understand what 3 cables are being referred to here.

Also, from the 3 way toggle I have 5 cables. 2 of them for each pickup and a 3rd for the Jack. These ones seem to be ok. Then, there is a white cable and a bare cable. According with the supplier they have to go together, but I am not sure where.

This sounds specific to the manufacturer/person who wired the harness. I don't recognize this problem of 5 wires coming off the switch or needing to put white and bare together. Would need to see the harness and the manufacturer's instructions to understand.

 

[Perry go round]

Re: Help with wiring -buzz and no-sounding nPU-

Thanks a lot for your reply.
According to what you say and what I have seen/listen it has to be that the green ground of the bridge is not connected to ground and there is a bad solder joint with the neck.
The cables I am referring which I am not sure where to connected are the white and bare cables from the 3-way toggle and the bare from the neck pick up.
I connected the bare from the bridge in the volume pot as seen in the wiring diagram. I am not sure if the bare from the neck pu should go to the vol or the tone pot.

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: Help with wiring -buzz and no-sounding nPU-

At this point in the discussion, photographs of your wiring would help enormously.

 

[Perry go round]

Re: Help with wiring -buzz and no-sounding nPU-

You are right. Here are some pics with the disconnected cables:

I had messed around a bit, and I had connected and disconnected those a few times, therefore their bad look.

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: Help with wiring -buzz and no-sounding nPU-

Can you post the manufacturers instructions? And do they have a diagram of it before it's wired into a guitar?

All the bare wires must go to ground directly.

Green wires also will go to ground, but because the Page wiring has the option to put pickups out of phase and in series, there is a specific route the green will take to ground.

In the top right, I'm seeing black, green and red that appear to be either all soldered together or touching each other. That is definitely not right.