Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
He plays a Tele, what do you expect?
That's the best argument in favour of SGs yet(I kid, I kid!)
He plays a Tele, what do you expect?
super rad stuff
Skaforlifeologist
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
pfsh it'd be a bolt neck for a boltneck plus i've got the "hotrodded HB set" in there!
pfsh it'd be a bolt neck for a boltneck
plus i've got the "hotrodded HB set" in there!blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
It's refreshing to see intelligent, informed individuals here, who know a quality guitar when they see one.
It's refreshing to see intelligent, informed individuals here, who know a quality guitar when they see one.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
BTW, these two polls, entertaining as they are, are somewhat botched. It should be LP vs Tele (single cuts and intended competitors), and SG vs Strat (double cuts & ditto on the rivalry).
You know, had Hendrix not played so many Strats (and he did play V's, SG's, LP's, and a 335 on occasion live & in the studio), and had Gibson countered early on with a "Super SG" (HSS and HSH using P-90s, with a 5-way & a Floyd), many of us would be looking at Strats & SG's very differently. But Hendrix's incredible talent & imagination boosted Strat's popularity more than all their advertising campaigns combined, and similarly, Gibson's lack of imagination let them get run over by the Super Strat design. Life is funny.
BTW, these two polls, entertaining as they are, are somewhat botched. It should be LP vs Tele (single cuts and intended competitors), and SG vs Strat (double cuts & ditto on the rivalry).
You know, had Hendrix not played so many Strats (and he did play V's, SG's, LP's, and a 335 on occasion live & in the studio), and had Gibson countered early on with a "Super SG" (HSS and HSH using P-90s, with a 5-way & a Floyd), many of us would be looking at Strats & SG's very differently. But Hendrix's incredible talent & imagination boosted Strat's popularity more than all their advertising campaigns combined, and similarly, Gibson's lack of imagination let them get run over by the Super Strat design. Life is funny.
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Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
Are you being tongue-in-cheek here, or do you have empirical evidence to back up these statements? If the latter, I'd love to read more about your findings.
- Keith
Are you being tongue-in-cheek here, or do you have empirical evidence to back up these statements? If the latter, I'd love to read more about your findings.
- Keith
richard parker
Active member
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
A Tele with HB's isn't really a Tele anymore is it ?
The other guitarist in my band has the best sounding Tele I've ever heard, it's a total bitsa that he got at a police auction of stolen goods so plenty of mojo. He's a lefty and I'm not so I don't get to play it. I play an SG Junior with a JB at the bridge. The combination of the two different sounds is humungous. If we both hit the same chord it sounds like one extremely huge guitar. But personally I'd take my SG anyday. The SG was the Gibson with all the design flaws of the LP corrected - lighter, total fret access, better tone definition. The ultimate Gibson solidbody in my opinion.
A Tele with HB's isn't really a Tele anymore is it ?
The other guitarist in my band has the best sounding Tele I've ever heard, it's a total bitsa that he got at a police auction of stolen goods so plenty of mojo. He's a lefty and I'm not so I don't get to play it. I play an SG Junior with a JB at the bridge. The combination of the two different sounds is humungous. If we both hit the same chord it sounds like one extremely huge guitar. But personally I'd take my SG anyday. The SG was the Gibson with all the design flaws of the LP corrected - lighter, total fret access, better tone definition. The ultimate Gibson solidbody in my opinion.
Mark Cearlock
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Mark Cearlock
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Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
Yes, blueman, I know this poll isnt really accurate. But when I saw the lp vs strat poll, I just had to do this. Should have been lp vs Sg and strat vs tele!
Yes, blueman, I know this poll isnt really accurate. But when I saw the lp vs strat poll, I just had to do this. Should have been lp vs Sg and strat vs tele!
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Skaforlifeologist
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
i can see why it'd be LP vs strat and SG vs tele since the former are basically the company flagships of their respective companies, and the latter being a bit less popular.
i can see why it'd be LP vs strat and SG vs tele since the former are basically the company flagships of their respective companies, and the latter being a bit less popular.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
Looking at Gibson, they've been very successful with LP's, SG's, V's, 335's, 175's, Firebirds, & Explorers. Fender has two designs that are probably 95% of their sales, and both of those were done by 1954. Leo had 2 guitars in him. Granted, Gibson also ran out of gas, but they had more successful designs in more body types before they did.
Looking at Gibson, they've been very successful with LP's, SG's, V's, 335's, 175's, Firebirds, & Explorers. Fender has two designs that are probably 95% of their sales, and both of those were done by 1954. Leo had 2 guitars in him. Granted, Gibson also ran out of gas, but they had more successful designs in more body types before they did.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
The nice thing about Fender is you can swap out the neck anytime you want. Can't do that with a set neck.
Do you get royalties from Gibson? Just curious.
The nice thing about Fender is you can swap out the neck anytime you want. Can't do that with a set neck.
Do you get royalties from Gibson? Just curious.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
I have a 1962 LP/SG with PAFs. It sounds very good, and plays really well, but it's my least played guitar.
Why? The HORRIBLE vibrato tailpiece (that's worthless as a vibrato) and equally horrible neck joint render it unable to stay in tune for any length of time. You can sit on the couch and play it well enough, but lean forward or back, and it goes out enough to be annoying.
Technically, my dad owns it, but as soon as it's really mine, something is gonna be done about the idiotic tailpiece.
I have a 1962 LP/SG with PAFs. It sounds very good, and plays really well, but it's my least played guitar.
Why? The HORRIBLE vibrato tailpiece (that's worthless as a vibrato) and equally horrible neck joint render it unable to stay in tune for any length of time. You can sit on the couch and play it well enough, but lean forward or back, and it goes out enough to be annoying.
Technically, my dad owns it, but as soon as it's really mine, something is gonna be done about the idiotic tailpiece.
Johtosotku
New member
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
When thinking about stock designs I'll have to go with the SG.
A good 50s Gibson neck with big frets is as good as it gets. I've never played a tele I've learned to love since I very rarely see a good one that's not made to be vintage correct with tiny frets and a 7.25 radius and a v neck. No thanks.
When thinking about stock designs I'll have to go with the SG.
A good 50s Gibson neck with big frets is as good as it gets. I've never played a tele I've learned to love since I very rarely see a good one that's not made to be vintage correct with tiny frets and a 7.25 radius and a v neck. No thanks.
alex1fly
Well-known member
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
yup, intelligent and informed, so long as they agree with you right? :naughty:
this point always comes up in gibson vs fender debates. should we make a new forum - the Neck Swap Lounge? how often does anyone swap necks?? i hardly think that's a reason to favor a certain kind of guitar, given the extremely low chance that you'll break it, and the fact that most of us would probably be stoked if we broke our guitar because then we'd have an excuse to buy a new one!
i was unhappy with my strat's neck for years. it doesn't feel right or fit my hands. i recently considered buying a conversion scale neck, but then i grew a pair and just played the guitar. problem solved
yup, intelligent and informed, so long as they agree with you right? :naughty:
this point always comes up in gibson vs fender debates. should we make a new forum - the Neck Swap Lounge? how often does anyone swap necks?? i hardly think that's a reason to favor a certain kind of guitar, given the extremely low chance that you'll break it, and the fact that most of us would probably be stoked if we broke our guitar because then we'd have an excuse to buy a new one!
i was unhappy with my strat's neck for years. it doesn't feel right or fit my hands. i recently considered buying a conversion scale neck, but then i grew a pair and just played the guitar. problem solved
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
SG for me.
Just more comfortable for my tastes, plus I prefer buckers.
SG for me.
Just more comfortable for my tastes, plus I prefer buckers.
Pink Unicorn Horsey
Megä Pöny Rÿdr
Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster
The reason I bring up the neck swap thing is because some people seem hell-bent on deriding Fender at all costs—I'm sure there are others in the anti-Gibson camp as well—and I feel someone needs to play a little devil's advocate.
I buy Fender guitars because I like the way they sound, feel and look. I have those same requirements for the Gibsons I buy as well. In fact, those are my top three criteria for any guitar in my price range, regardless of manufacturer.
Disrespecting an entire guitar manufacturer without giving any reasonable basis is a bunch of crap, in my opinion. If someone's going to say, "Brand X sucks" and I don't have a problem with Brand X, I'll feel compelled to make some kind of lucid argument about it. Seems fair to me. The fact is, there are people out there who give strong consideration to whether or not a broken headstock or neck replacement will be a big deal to them. You and I may not care—actually, I do care, but it's not at the top of my list—but enough people do for these guitars to be made this way, apparently.
Just for the record, let's be very clear on one point: I have no bias toward Fender or Gibson. I own two of each and play them all lovingly. If this were a public poll, you'd see that I didn't vote. The reason, quite simply, is because I can't decide which guitar I prefer. If someone started railing against Gibson all over the place the way some seem to enjoy doing to Fender, I'm sure I'd chime in about that as well.
- Keith
this point always comes up in gibson vs fender debates. should we make a new forum - the Neck Swap Lounge? how often does anyone swap necks?? i hardly think that's a reason to favor a certain kind of guitar, given the extremely low chance that you'll break it, and the fact that most of us would probably be stoked if we broke our guitar because then we'd have an excuse to buy a new one!
i was unhappy with my strat's neck for years. it doesn't feel right or fit my hands. i recently considered buying a conversion scale neck, but then i grew a pair and just played the guitar. problem solved
The reason I bring up the neck swap thing is because some people seem hell-bent on deriding Fender at all costs—I'm sure there are others in the anti-Gibson camp as well—and I feel someone needs to play a little devil's advocate.
I buy Fender guitars because I like the way they sound, feel and look. I have those same requirements for the Gibsons I buy as well. In fact, those are my top three criteria for any guitar in my price range, regardless of manufacturer.
Disrespecting an entire guitar manufacturer without giving any reasonable basis is a bunch of crap, in my opinion. If someone's going to say, "Brand X sucks" and I don't have a problem with Brand X, I'll feel compelled to make some kind of lucid argument about it. Seems fair to me. The fact is, there are people out there who give strong consideration to whether or not a broken headstock or neck replacement will be a big deal to them. You and I may not care—actually, I do care, but it's not at the top of my list—but enough people do for these guitars to be made this way, apparently.
Just for the record, let's be very clear on one point: I have no bias toward Fender or Gibson. I own two of each and play them all lovingly. If this were a public poll, you'd see that I didn't vote. The reason, quite simply, is because I can't decide which guitar I prefer. If someone started railing against Gibson all over the place the way some seem to enjoy doing to Fender, I'm sure I'd chime in about that as well.
- Keith
