hey there, Mr Artie (and others) ... quick Q for ya ...

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consider a tapped single coil pickup, say 7K on the tap and 13K full out.

would a blender pot combining the tapped signal and the full output signal produce a range of tones?

i know it is not quite the same as 'spin a split' as with a double coil pickup, but i can't quite suss out for myself if 'spin a tap' would work or not

thoughts?
 
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Re: hey there, Mr Artie (and others) ... quick Q for ya ...

I don't think it can be done that way. But I'd have to try it know for sure because I could be overlooking something.

Seems like since you're only dealing with one coil and one common ground that the 7K tap is part of the 13K full out and one couldn't be separated from the other to "add" it to the "other".
 
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If you try to short out the coil like a spin-a-split, I think you would loose a lot of tone. Don't do that.

The blender pot approach should work. I don't see why not.
 
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Yes, you CAN do that. Instead of a switch adding in (or taking out - however you want to look at it) the "extra" winds in a tapped single coil, you would wire the "extra" winds to a pot so you could gradually add them in. It would require slightly different wiring which would treat each section of the pup as separate "coil".
 
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I can't picture how it could be done.

It's all one 12K coil with ground at one end and the positive output at the 12K end, with a tap at the 7K point.

If you were going to use the 7K tap as the main output and treat the remaining 5K of wire as a separate coil you'd have to ground that 5K coil at the 7K tap.

And that would short out 7K worth of the coil.

I sure might be missing something but that's the way it looks to me.
 
Re: hey there, Mr Artie (and others) ... quick Q for ya ...

I actually did this once, many moons ago, with a tapped Quarter Pound single. The results were unspectacular. I don't think it survived for an hour. ;)
 
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Lewguitar said:
I can't picture how it could be done.

It's all one 12K coil with ground at one end and the positive output at the 12K end, with a tap at the 7K point.

If you were going to use the 7K tap as the main output and treat the remaining 5K of wire as a separate coil you'd have to ground that 5K coil at the 7K tap.

And that would short out 7K worth of the coil.

I sure might be missing something but that's the way it looks to me.
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This makes sense to me. I think the best you could hope for would be to add the remaining 5k to the "always on" 7k... and do it with a standard pot instead of a blend pot. You'd still be blending from 7k to 12k, but it'd be on a single potentiometer instead of a dual one like on a blend pot. Then it becomes kind of like spin-a-split.

All that said, I haven't sat down to try to figure it out on paper, so it's possible that I'm all wet! :D
 
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I don't think its possible. I thought that with the tapped SC it was a definitely a case of either full monty or tapped.

However i do recollect reading something about using a dual linear pot to achieve blending but cannot think of how you could possibly wire it because there is only one ground.
 
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Gstring said:
I don't think its possible. I thought that with the tapped SC it was a definitely a case of either full monty or tapped.

However i do recollect reading something about using a dual linear pot to achieve blending but cannot think of how you could possibly wire it because there is only one ground.
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Doesn't anyone read my posts? :D

I've done this. It's simple. Wire the "hot" output to one end of a pot, and the tap to the other. Take the output from the wiper. Works fine, just not noteworthy. Not worth doing IMHO.

Also, I did spin-a-phase. Hot and ground go to each end of a pot. Ground the "tap", and take the output from the wiper. You can dial from one phase to the other. Again, not worth doing. It's a waste of a high output tapped pup.

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ArtieToo said:
Doesn't anyone read my posts? :D

I've done this. It's simple. Wire the "hot" output to one end of a pot, and the tap to the other. Take the output from the wiper. Works fine, just not noteworthy. Not worth doing IMHO.

Also, I did spin-a-phase. Hot and ground go to each end of a pot. Ground the "tap", and take the output from the wiper. You can dial from one phase to the other. Again, not worth doing. It's a waste of a high output tapped pup.

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Yes, that's it.
 
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ArtieToo said:
Doesn't anyone read my posts? :D

I've done this. It's simple. Wire the "hot" output to one end of a pot, and the tap to the other. Take the output from the wiper. Works fine, just not noteworthy. Not worth doing IMHO.

Also, I did spin-a-phase. Hot and ground go to each end of a pot. Ground the "tap", and take the output from the wiper. You can dial from one phase to the other. Again, not worth doing. It's a waste of a high output tapped pup.

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GuitarDoc said:
Yes, that's it.
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On behalf of the mortals "contributing" to this thread, may I just say...

WE'RE NOT WORTHY!! [emoji12]


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Re: hey there, Mr Artie (and others) ... quick Q for ya ...

If you want to try this, you should figure on using a 250k linear pot for the fader. As an alternative, a 100k pot might give some improvement over the 250k.
The 1M pot will add so much series resistance that its going to sound like mud unless you have an active preamp inside the guitar.
 
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