HK Grandmiester 36

BloodRose

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Been eyeing the Tubemiester 36 since it came out. But, they have added another gain stage for the new version and dubbed it the Grandmiester 36. Better than before IMO.

A few vids popping up on youtube. This one is pretty cool showing it in an open setting. Me likey!

http://youtu.be/OHVYJIeHWAk

Anyone play one yet?
 
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I've not tried that one, but I did try the TM 18 a day or two back. I liked its clean channel but wasn't able to dial in the gain channel to my liking. I can can only describe it as being a bit too 'modern' for my tastes. My guess would be that the GM36 would be something similar. That said, I tried a JVM1 at the same time and wasn't sold on that either.
 
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anyone tried one of these yet?? Most of the reviews are in a diff language, but I can understand the tone. Sounds good to me. In the vid above, he switches thru the Red box at somewhere after the 10 min mark and that sounds massive. Doesnt seem to have usual boxy EL84 tone.

Here is a demo by the same guy. This is the review and not the live demo as above..

http://youtu.be/NAQ9kpUZQys
 
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More gain? I don't have a Tubemeister, but my H&K Edition Tube has a sick amount of gain. I run it with the gain at about half so that I still have some clarity and articulation. I hear the Tubemeisters are similar, so I don't know why you'd need an extra gain stage unless you wanted to use it for death metal or something...
 
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I played one in Cologne a couple of months back. If there is such a thing as a perfect amp, to me, then this is it. Absolutely amazing. Just about as much gain you could ever want, easy presets, good sounding reverb, attenuator. It's got some digital effects I would never use; in fact it's so features-full it'd be hard to consider using all of them.

I didn't feel the amp sounded generic or compressed: it had its own sound, clearly EL84 driven although of course that's slightly less obvious as you pile up gain. Guitars keep their characters when going through it.
 
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I played one in Cologne a couple of months back. If there is such a thing as a perfect amp, to me, then this is it. Absolutely amazing. Just about as much gain you could ever want, easy presets, good sounding reverb, attenuator. It's got some digital effects I would never use; in fact it's so features-full it'd be hard to consider using all of them.

I didn't feel the amp sounded generic or compressed: it had its own sound, clearly EL84 driven although of course that's slightly less obvious as you pile up gain. Guitars keep their characters when going through it.

Great info! thanks! all the clips sound great and the features are amazing. my only concern is that I like, but normally dont prefer an EL84 based amp. wish I could try one somewhere.
 
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I got one a couple of weeks ago. The following is a review that I posted on another web forum a few days after taking it home. It all still rings true. LOVE this amp!

So after swearing-off "small iron" (tube amps less than 50 watts), and circuit-laden channel switchers last year... I thought I'd likely be going with classic styled amps like Fenders and Plexis from here on out. Have owned lots of great boutique amps over the past couple of years. Bogners, VHT, Engl, Lickliter, and more. All were great, but I felt like there was too much going-on in there and wanted to simplify by tone chain. Main two amps over the past year have been a Marshall 2203X and Straub Hurdy Gurdy (blackface, 2X6L6, P2P). Both simple, single-channel amps that sound great.

And then, I plugged into a Hughes & Kettner Grandmeister. Holy crap this thing can cover a lot of ground! My local dealer (long-time friend) sent me home with the last one they'll have for at least a month and I proceeded to wring this thing out. Used 4 different guitars (MM Morse Y2D, Dean Soltero USA, Sterling Luke, and Schecter Damien C7 Elite).

Started with some country stuff. As usual, the H&K amps always produce awesome, glassy cleans. (I used to gig a 100-watt H&K Triamp Mk I in a country rock band and it was awesome... but HEAVY!) Anyways, back to the Grandmeister... push the boost on for some hair. Add some chorus, reverb and delay to taste. All very pristine. Favorite guitars in this mode were The MM Y2D and Sterling Luke. Plenty of spank, chime, and glass here. Played through a bunch of Kenny Chesney, Keith Urban, etc. Had been considering joining another country/rock band lately and this amp would be perfect. Sure... it's overkill for that. But it's got the tone, and more features than you could ever fully use... so why not?

Then on to crunch rhythm and lead programming. This took me longer. At first I felt that the tones were a bit loose, spongey, flubby, and grainy. But [despite my disdain for the buzz-kill of spending time tweaking instead of playing] after some quality time tweaking I had tightened-up the rhythm crunch and leads and was really liking them. Did some dry patches, as well as ones with reverb and delay for leads. I like OD on an amp to have immediate response. So once I'd found those tones (found them in the Lead and Ultra modes with the gain rolled-back, and the volume punchy enough to be "spanky")... I went through the Dean Soltero USA (LP-style) and really loved the crunch and clarity, yet fluidity that I was hearing as I did lead work.

And lastly, I pulled-out the Schecter 7-string, dialed-up an awesome scoopy patch on the Ultra channel and channeled my inner teenager. The thing was tight and inspirational as I played numbers from Halestorm, Evenescence, Chevelle, Saliva, etc. I was VERY impressed with the HUGE tone this thing was delivering through my V30/H30 loaded Line6 4X12. Later, for band practice I used my Egnater 1X12 cube and this amp still sounded awesome. I've never really cared for that cab until now!

I'm convinced that there's NO ground I couldn't cover with this thing. It's small, fits in a small carry bag, has all kinds of features like the Redbox DI, scalable wattage (silent, 1, 5, 18, and the full 36 watts -- programmable to EACH of the 128 patch locations!), etc.This thing is PERFECT for someone who has to cover a lot of ground, but needs to keep his rig compact and possibly quiet (though it will get loud as hell!).

I HIGHLY recommend that you check them out if you are curious in the least. Makes sure you understand how to operate the FX and tone controls. I've got the FSM432Mk III footswitch that goes along with the amp and it's perfect.

Take it from a guy who has owned many of the great buotique tube amps... this thing is legit! The only real question in my mind is durability/reliability. There's a WHOLE lot of stuff going-on in this tiny (yet chunky) head. it generates a decent amount of heat, so I've been running a small fan on it to keep it cool. Between it being made in China and doing so many things... I'm a bit wary of it breaking-down. So I'll be taking a spare to gigs. If I continue to be high on this amp and it becomes my main gigging one, I'll eventually get another to have as a spare.

Also, I didn't cover the fact that you can create and save patches on this thing via an iPad or iPhone app. I don't have any Apple products (nor will I), so that feature isn't of any use to me. I'm hoping that there will eventually be a Droid app for it so I can use my Samsung Galaxy S4 phone and Galaxy tablet.

Btw... the output tranformers in this thing are BIG for its 36 watts. They're every bit as big as the trannies in many of the 50-100 watt heads I've owned. So that's a good sign.

Pic of the head on my Laney LT212 cab...

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Just a little addendum... after two weeks I still love the tone and features of this thing. It sounds great and could not be handier. I used to think that if I ever got the call from some big name rock/country touring band to hit the road with them, I'd grab a couple of Shivas and put a rack together. At this point I'm thinking that I'd just take a half dozen of these things out and a couple of 4X12s and call it good. It really is that good! The gigs are starting to line-up for me for the summer, so I'll have plenty of opportunity to see how it stands-up to the grind of that.
 
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Thanks for the awesome review!! I HAVE played some of the smaller Tubemeisters and was pretty impressed with the tones, but could never find one of the bigger ones. Then the Grandmiester came out and the feature list is impressive, but its one thing to have a bunch of sounds than to have a bunch of usable tones.. Then, they came out with the GM and everything Ive seen thus far has blown my mind. But in my years, Ive learned the old saying is true. if it sounds too good to be true..... So, Ive been alil skeptical. Plus, although I have a PV classic 30, ive found el84 amps usually sound alil dark. this one seems very open for EL84s. One last thing, Ive used a H&K blues 30 as my main practice round the house amp for years and it has served me well, (but is on its last leg) so I have faith in that brand too.
Please keep me posted on how this serves you over time. Im VERY interested
 
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I hear you. I worry when amps start getting alot of many push buttons and multi function knobs and all, that the durability will suffer. Esp when its at a price point of lesser featured amps. Where is the cost savings?? But otherwise, its high on my radar.

Yes, I saw the vid and it was one that helped get me frothy. Sounds amazing! Wondering how much addl production was put into it
 
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I got a TM 18 recently and it is a great little amp. Heck, it is a great big amp. Thing is load as heck, great clean channel and all the gain you could want. I had a Blackstar HT-5 and a Orange Dark Terror (both sold) and I like the TM 18 way better than both. (Although the Orange was cool...)
 
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I got a TM 18 recently and it is a great little amp. Heck, it is a great big amp. Thing is load as heck, great clean channel and all the gain you could want. I had a Blackstar HT-5 and a Orange Dark Terror (both sold) and I like the TM 18 way better than both. (Although the Orange was cool...)

I've been thinking about getting the 18. How does it sound with the lower wattage and with lower volume?
 
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It's funny because one of the reasons I got it was for the lower wattage settings. However, I usually only use the 18 watt setting. The others sound good for sure. I just can't get the aggressiveness or "umph" out of them that I do out of the 18 watt. (No surprise)

At low volume, the 18 watt setting sounds great although you do need to set it at about t 9 o'clock. Less than that it sounds thin. However, this isn't an issue as it's not really that loud at that setting. I play it in my study, with my wife in the other room watching TV and it isn't a problem.
 
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Ive played the 5 and the 18 and was REAL impressed with the 18. I just like the addl features of the 36. And now the Grandmiester is even better, so the G.A.S tank is FULL now. haha
 
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Thanks for the awesome review!! I HAVE played some of the smaller Tubemeisters and was pretty impressed with the tones, but could never find one of the bigger ones. Then the Grandmiester came out and the feature list is impressive, but its one thing to have a bunch of sounds than to have a bunch of usable tones.. Then, they came out with the GM and everything Ive seen thus far has blown my mind. But in my years, Ive learned the old saying is true. if it sounds too good to be true..... So, Ive been alil skeptical. Plus, although I have a PV classic 30, ive found el84 amps usually sound alil dark. this one seems very open for EL84s. One last thing, Ive used a H&K blues 30 as my main practice round the house amp for years and it has served me well, (but is on its last leg) so I have faith in that brand too.
Please keep me posted on how this serves you over time. Im VERY interested

Still diggin it man! I used to have a Peavey Classic 50 tweed head and hated that thing. Like you said, too dark. I've always been biased against EL84 amps because of that. BUT... based on this Grandmeister (and my "new" Ceriatone 36W RP that I review in a NGD/NAD thread over in the guitar section here)... I"m digging EL84s a LOT these days. In fact, I no longer have any tube amp that doesn't have EL84s in it (I have three EL84-based tube heads right now). I used to be ALL about EL34s. But these 84s are turning-out to be pretty awesome. And PLENTY loud.
 
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Ive played the 5 and the 18 and was REAL impressed with the 18. I just like the addl features of the 36. And now the Grandmiester is even better, so the G.A.S tank is FULL now. haha

I have the TM-18 and love it. I don't need the MIDI features, so the 36 doesn't really do anything more for me.

But BloodRose, you've been GASsing after a TubeMeister forever. Don't you have a kidney you can sell or something? Dooo eeet!!!
 
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I have the TM-18 and love it. I don't need the MIDI features, so the 36 doesn't really do anything more for me.

But BloodRose, you've been GASsing after a TubeMeister forever. Don't you have a kidney you can sell or something? Dooo eeet!!!

yes, I have. but the GM is much cooler! I still have both of my kidneys, Ebay wont let you list body parts, so I have word out. Ill sell a kidney or even my johnson. (im married so it serves no purpose anyhow. hahaahaa)

I sure dont need another amp tho, but I sure want one. this would be practical tho since my other amps are 50 or 100 watt beasts. the GM has the watt switch an silent direct recording. I like the 5150 III 50 too as it has a headphone jack.
 
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