Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

I have 3 options to choose from.

100 watt Marshall through a 2x12

50 watt combo through 1x12, though it has attenuation built in.

Amplitube on the iPhone.

For home practice, it's Amplitube almost every time. I have kids and my only time to really practice is when they are asleep so I have to take that in to consideration.
 
Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

Instead of an attenuator, I'd suggest a dummy load - if you want to use your Mark five quietly. That's a way of separating cooking the power tubes from making a lot of pretty noise. The drawbacks are that you'll probably miss the speaker cab's coloration and there is no easy way around it. You can use impulse responses but they lack the nonlinearities of the real thing and introduce phase aliasing, which is why I think amp modelling sucks in general. However I still use this method, because a grossly underpowered guitar cab sucks too, although in a different way and for a different reason. If you don't mind a digital cabinet simulation, I suggest finding out about the Torpedo loadbox with integrated IR convolver. I think I saw Keith Merrow use one.

Then, there are isolation cabinets, which are a 1x12 cab and mic in a soundproofed box. These will help you practice close-miking as well, but you won't hear the raw speaker tone unless you leave it open and find out it's either too loud for your fellows or too quiet to sound good. Guess what - isocabs suck too, because they take up space, and need some auxiliary equipment before they can be properly used (mic, preamp, monitoring solution, cables). They leak a bit too.

Then there is baby tube amps. My dear, these are so cute. But the problem is everybody seems to be stuck in a "watts per dollar" mentality, as if guitar amps were clothes irons. Yes, you could build a low watt mark five but it would wind up costing almost as much as the big brother. Iron and tubes are cheaper but designing and building a small amp takes the same amount of work as a big one. So most commonly, baby amps are made simple and cheap because fitting a zillion knobs into a small package is difficult and because few people would actually buy a $1500 practice amp.
 
Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

I've got a Demeter - all boxed up sounded congested... With the door opened up, things were normal and volume wise very controllable.

Had a go with the Champ and PRS for the 1st time last night. Halfway up and a Bogner Blue, really pretty darned good and not that loud. If I miked the thing and set up post amp reverb/delay, I think it could go way over the top distortion wise.
 
Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

In my experience attenuation works best when it's used the least...

If you want to attenuate a 100 watt amp down low enough to be used a whisper levels I'd say get ready to be disappointed in the end results.

I practice at home with the same amps I gig with most of the time but live I just crank them up sometimes boost them with an OD or Rangemaster but at home I rely more on distortion pedals to get a decent sound at lower volumes...it's not the same tone and it sure ain't the same feel but it works for at home.
 
Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

Essentially I do kind of what TGWIF does. I'm fortunate enough though to have a garage detatched from my house that is my 'jam room'... so I don't practice at whisper quiet volumes at all lol. That said, I just turn my amps DOWN a lot more than I like and up the gain on my drive pedals and fuzz box. Then when I practice at volume and or gig... I'm hugely rewarded with a tone that makes me go "wtf?" everytime lol. Kind of like a present.

Anytime I get a modeler or a doohicky with a lot of buttons I spend so much time turning knobs and not playing and then I start thinking about an amp that's the real version of a cool model I like because I saw some band on the Conan show... just a bunch of drama I don't need.

Also.... unpluged? why not just do that?
 
Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

its only for practice. Keep using the modeller.
Time spent playing beats time spent chasing tone subtleties by about 100 to one. NO matter how good you get your tube amp sounding at home, everything gets trhown out the window when you are jamming with you band anyway. That, and the fact that you have to re-eq in different rooms says that there is nothing wrong at all with your current practice/band amp setup.
 
Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

Time spent playing beats time spent chasing tone subtleties by about 100 to one. NO matter how good you get your tube amp sounding at home, everything gets trhown out the window when you are jamming with you band anyway. That, and the fact that you have to re-eq in different rooms says that there is nothing wrong at all with your current practice/band amp setup.

truuuuuuue.
 
Re: Home practice: model, attenuate, or baby tube amp?

its only for practice. Keep using the modeller.
Time spent playing beats time spent chasing tone subtleties by about 100 to one. NO matter how good you get your tube amp sounding at home, everything gets trhown out the window when you are jamming with you band anyway. That, and the fact that you have to re-eq in different rooms says that there is nothing wrong at all with your current practice/band amp setup.

Yep, I think you nailed it. Thanks.

THREAD OVER. GATHER UP YOUR THINGS AND GET OUT.
 
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