home studio info

[ravendouglas]

We dont talk much about home recording here. I was'nt sure where to even put this topic. Does anyone know any good sources for information about building and putting together a home studio ? Any pro tools users here? Is that a good product for home recording? Do I want to go new age and use a computer program to record with ,or the oldschool method,record with tape equipment. Do any of you have a home studio? If so what are you using and how were the results?
Are the little self contained ,recorders that have the built in cd burner worth checking out?

 

[dominus]

Re: home studio info

We dont talk much about home recording here. I was'nt sure where to even put this topic. Does anyone know any good sources for information about building and putting together a home studio ? Any pro tools users here? Is that a good product for home recording? Do I want to go new age and use a computer program to record with ,or the oldschool method,record with tape equipment. Do any of you have a home studio? If so what are you using and how were the results?

Here:

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5

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To answer your questions:

You do want to use a computer in a home studio. Most major studios are computer based as well. Pro Tools is what's used in major studios, so it doesn't hurt to use it in a home studio, as you'll be able to export your projects and take them to a pro studio later if you want.

 

[ravendouglas]

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yes,i was thinking about using a computer based system ,since i already have a real good computer. thank you for the tips and clips,thats actually an area of the forum i havnt visited.

 

[Funkfingers]

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1) Too many sources of info to list.
2) Don't use Pro Tools myself.
3) Computerised digital and analogue tape recording each have their advantages and disadvantages.
4) Yes, I have home recording equipment - digital and analogue.
5) The results are, I hope, uniquely my own.

 

[ravendouglas]

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1) Too many sources of info to list.
2) Don't use Pro Tools myself.
3) Computerised digital and analogue tape recording each have their advantages and disadvantages.
4) Yes, I have home recording equipment - digital and analogue.
5) The results are, I hope, uniquely my own.

sorry about all the questions funk fingers.i have reached the stage in my playing where i want to learn how to record my music and what to record it with.

 

[Funkfingers]

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Bang for buck? Computer.

Virtual signal processors are way more affordable than hardware ones. On the other hand, zeroes and ones are no substitute for the visceral experience of standing next to a Hammond B3 organ played through a Leslie cabinet.

The Stooges album, "Raw Power", is start to finish analogue tape overdrive. Imagine that made on digital technology?

Two of the UK's most respected writers on the subject of recording are Paul White and Hugh Robjohns of Sound On Sound magazine. Check out some of the books that they have published for no-nonsense descriptions, explanations and advice.

 

[ehdwuld]

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Raven
didn't your GNX pedal come with the Protracks software?
mine did

you can usb that thing right up
with cakewalks Pro Tracks and XEdit software

let me know if you have trouble loading it
I did and had to call in to get some help

 

[jacksonrr]

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www.homercording.com/bbs

Good info. Good people.

Do NOT buy USB or firewire. Latency and throughput issues every single one of them. If you're PC, best bang for your buck is the E-MU 1616M. $450 and a stellar device. Awesome converters and opamps. Plenty of in-out.
Mac, I don't know what the best, but I've had M-audio cards and always thought they were pretty good. You can get a little Delta 44 for like $150. Actually THAT would be your best intro to home recording. You'd be happy with it for a very long part of the learning curve. Rock solid drivers, decent audio, doesn't have an over complicated GUI like the E-MU or others.

Good luck!

 

[jacksonrr]

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to clarify the m-audio 44 is PC or Mac.

 

[dominus]

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www.homercording.com/bbs

Good info. Good people.

Do NOT buy USB or firewire. Latency and throughput issues every single one of them. If you're PC, best bang for your buck is the E-MU 1616M. $450 and a stellar device. Awesome converters and opamps. Plenty of in-out.
Mac, I don't know what the best, but I've had M-audio cards and always thought they were pretty good. You can get a little Delta 44 for like $150. Actually THAT would be your best intro to home recording. You'd be happy with it for a very long part of the learning curve. Rock solid drivers, decent audio, doesn't have an over complicated GUI like the E-MU or others.

Good luck!

I've been running an M-Audio Firewire 410 for years now, no latency. I plug my guitar in, load a heavy amp sim (with enough options to see me in the 25% CPU usage range on an i5 Quad Core), and the sound comes out while I play.

Plenty of people running laptops with external cards, no latency.

Maybe there's latency on USB 1.1 trying to run above 48k, but USB 2.0 and Firewire are solid, and typically the only solution available to most people.

 

[Nightburst]

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Great topic! I've learned things the hard way, but now I've got a real cheap home set-up with amazing sound quality. Wish I had more time to record stuff though!

anno 2010 it's possible for everyone with a computer to create their own home studio with good results. Did I mention good sound quality?

I'm using this stuff right now:

Dual core computer with Cubase, amplitube, ezdrummer.
Yamaha audiogram, comes with cubase and with the right driver there's no latency issues at all. Just make shure your pc is fast enough!
Shure beta 58 and sm 57.
Yamaha dtxplorer with midi --> USB for triggering the ez drummer drumsamples.

I can plug in a bassguitar and use one of the amplitube amp models (gallien kruger!) with a nice amp sim.

When I use amplitube I use ke-fir cabinet simulation. Also known as impulses. I just bypass the amp sims from amplitube and use the impulse setting I like best, which is an angled mic most of the time.
This makes a dramatic improvement of sound and feel when using software to mimic a guitar amp!
All of this into cubase, it's great fun mixing and getting the sounds I want.
I'll be posting clips soon so you can hear for yourself.

Having a home studio is great, but there's a lot of things you need to know about. I'm still learning but I already feel like a producer. It's a good thing to isolate the studio room al around.

 

[ratherdashing]

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www.homercording.com/bbs

Good info. Good people.

Do NOT buy USB or firewire. Latency and throughput issues every single one of them. If you're PC, best bang for your buck is the E-MU 1616M. $450 and a stellar device. Awesome converters and opamps. Plenty of in-out.
Mac, I don't know what the best, but I've had M-audio cards and always thought they were pretty good. You can get a little Delta 44 for like $150. Actually THAT would be your best intro to home recording. You'd be happy with it for a very long part of the learning curve. Rock solid drivers, decent audio, doesn't have an over complicated GUI like the E-MU or others.

Good luck!

Bull
****

I've done hundreds of recordings using USB and firewire interfaces. Latency has never been an issue.

 

[ehdwuld]

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Bull
****

I've done hundreds of recordings using USB and firewire interfaces. Latency has never been an issue.

+1

tho not hundreds

 

[jacksonrr]

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So you guys are doing less than 20 ms of latency now? I've never seen it. Not with M-boxes, Presonus, E-mu, m-audio, line6 none of it. Always had latency that was at least slightly noticeable. If you're interface is doing it for you, that's good and I'm glad you have a working problem free solution. Lots don't.

Some of that stuff produces fine results. I'm not for em.

+1 on cab impulses when mikes/good room aren't available

 

[jacksonrr]

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I have no problem being wrong. Screenshot your latency or just report it. I'm seriously curious now and not in a competitive way.

 

[dominus]

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So you guys are doing less than 20 ms of latency now? I've never seen it. Not with M-boxes, Presonus, E-mu, m-audio, line6 none of it. Always had latency that was at least slightly noticeable. If you're interface is doing it for you, that's good and I'm glad you have a working problem free solution. Lots don't.

Some of that stuff produces fine results. I'm not for em.

+1 on cab impulses when mikes/good room aren't available

Buy a new computer.

I keep my M-Audio Firewire 410 at 256 samples, which is 5.8ms. It's rock solid.


http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_au/FireWire410.html


FireWire 410 uses extremely low-latency ASIO 2 and WDM drivers. The software control panel allows you to tailor the buffer size to the least delay possible for your CPU—as few as an unnoticeable 64 samples on fast processors.

 

[ratherdashing]

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So you guys are doing less than 20 ms of latency now? I've never seen it. Not with M-boxes, Presonus, E-mu, m-audio, line6 none of it. Always had latency that was at least slightly noticeable. If you're interface is doing it for you, that's good and I'm glad you have a working problem free solution. Lots don't.

Some of that stuff produces fine results. I'm not for em.

+1 on cab impulses when mikes/good room aren't available

Less than 20 ms? Is that even going to be audible? I honestly have no idea exactly what latency I'm getting with my FireStudio, but it's not enough to be audible unless I'm monitoring through Logic as opposed to direct, which is pretty much never. Like I said, I've never had latency issues.

Any computer recording system is going to have some latency. Direct monitoring your source plus the ability to nudge the take an exact amount pretty much makes it a non-issue.

 

[innerdreamrecords.co]

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I can't remember but I think 12ms or less is the goal. There's a formula 1ms= about 1 foot.

 

[jacksonrr]

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I keep my M-Audio Firewire 410 at 256 samples, which is 5.8ms. It's rock solid.

Well that's cool. I stand corrected. M-audio does make good stuff and their drivers are some of the best! Seems the RME stuff is doing the same thing with acceptable latency. That **** is expensive.

 

[Laluserne]

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Hello guys,

I work with RME fireface, plug on the firewire, with MAC intel 4go RAM and logic pro 7.

I don't know what means "latency". Never heard about it...