Hooray, I Got My New Gibson & G-Force Blows!!!!

So I got my new Double Cut L.P. SPECIAL on Friday!!!
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I'm actually quite happy with most aspects of the guitar, some of which I thought I'd hate like the new wider fretboard. It's a little off putting at first but I'm not really used to playing Gibson's anyway so the wide fingerboard & shorter scale are both things that took a little getting used to. Now that I have I appreciate both!

I also really like the stock P-90's! When I was watching the demo videos for the guitar I said "well those will be coming out" because they had this bright, shiny, nature to them? I thought I'd hate that tone but now that I've got the guitar in hand I really don't, actually quite the opposite! They are very percussive & they have a fair amount of snap in their backbone. This has become one of my favorite features of this little fiddle!!!

Now for the things that I don't like too much... Luckily I think with a little bit of money and elbow grease they can be addressed & fixed to my liking??? The Lighting Bolt Wraparound bridge is just that, a wraparound bridge & it performsas such! I had pretty much planned on swapping that out with something that can actually be intonated from the get go anyway, so it's really no surprise that I don't absolutely love it. I just ordered a Schaller Signum & it should arrive on Tuesday. As far as wraparound's go it doesn't get much better than the Signum IMHO!!!

Alright, the G-Force.... So I know these things are a improvement over the Mini-TunE but I think another 3-5 years of R&D are definitely in order before they start putting these on every single plank of wood with strings on it that they turn out? Mine actually works better than a lot them that I've seen, which is good because I have to use it a lot!!! It does tune the guitar, & it does it quickly, but it doesn't offer much in the way of tuning stability. Plus the added weight in the headstock causes balance issues? I suppose it's something I could live with if it worked perfectly but for now I feel like it's more of a hindrance than anything else?

The G-Force system would have been nice if it came as a option, but making it a standard feature at this point (& technically charging you more for it) was just a stupid move on Gibson's part!!!! I'm hoping a nice set of Grover or Kulson tuners will stabilize it enough that I can play it for at least 20 minutes or so before I have to re-tune. I probably can't ask for much more than that because I do tend to play a little heavy handed, LOL!!!

So to that extent I've got a question that some of you may be able to answer. Does anyone know if G-Force will fit & function alright on a newer Chinese Epi L.P. CUSTOM??? I've been thinking about swapping the tuning systems on the two around since the Epi. actually has really nice tuners on it already & I don't play it all that often...
 
Re: Hooray, I Got My New Gibson & G-Force Blows!!!!

Tuners are tuners.......the key points are that they fit through the holes in the headstock and they have the spacing between them right.

Other than that its not like the unit is going to care what guitar its fitted to.
 
Re: Hooray, I Got My New Gibson & G-Force Blows!!!!

So I got my new Double Cut L.P. SPECIAL on Friday!!!
View attachment 74077
I'm actually quite happy with most aspects of the guitar, some of which I thought I'd hate like the new wider fretboard. It's a little off putting at first but I'm not really used to playing Gibson's anyway so the wide fingerboard & shorter scale are both things that took a little getting used to. Now that I have I appreciate both!

I also really like the stock P-90's! When I was watching the demo videos for the guitar I said "well those will be coming out" because they had this bright, shiny, nature to them? I thought I'd hate that tone but now that I've got the guitar in hand I really don't, actually quite the opposite! They are very percussive & they have a fair amount of snap in their backbone. This has become one of my favorite features of this little fiddle!!!

Now for the things that I don't like too much... Luckily I think with a little bit of money and elbow grease they can be addressed & fixed to my liking??? The Lighting Bolt Wraparound bridge is just that, a wraparound bridge & it performsas such! I had pretty much planned on swapping that out with something that can actually be intonated from the get go anyway, so it's really no surprise that I don't absolutely love it. I just ordered a Schaller Signum & it should arrive on Tuesday. As far as wraparound's go it doesn't get much better than the Signum IMHO!!!

Alright, the G-Force.... So I know these things are a improvement over the Mini-TunE but I think another 3-5 years of R&D are definitely in order before they start putting these on every single plank of wood with strings on it that they turn out? Mine actually works better than a lot them that I've seen, which is good because I have to use it a lot!!! It does tune the guitar, & it does it quickly, but it doesn't offer much in the way of tuning stability. Plus the added weight in the headstock causes balance issues? I suppose it's something I could live with if it worked perfectly but for now I feel like it's more of a hindrance than anything else?

The G-Force system would have been nice if it came as a option, but making it a standard feature at this point (& technically charging you more for it) was just a stupid move on Gibson's part!!!! I'm hoping a nice set of Grover or Kulson tuners will stabilize it enough that I can play it for at least 20 minutes or so before I have to re-tune. I probably can't ask for much more than that because I do tend to play a little heavy handed, LOL!!!

So to that extent I've got a question that some of you may be able to answer. Does anyone know if G-Force will fit & function alright on a newer Chinese Epi L.P. CUSTOM??? I've been thinking about swapping the tuning systems on the two around since the Epi. actually has really nice tuners on it already & I don't play it all that often...

You have to download the template from the Tronical web site to see if the plate would match the tuner holes.. I got a used set of Gforce tuners on Ebay that dropped into my 2015 les paul- so I bought another set for my 1986 Les Paul Custom, and they didn't fit, holes didn't line up
 
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