Here are some pics I promised of my mauled LP '75 custom pancake along with some case photos. Damn '80s and whammy bars. Yes, I know it was stupid. No, I don't need you to tell me. I've beat myself up for this for over 20 years now. The headstock was broken off and repaired back in '86 and I've shown a photo of that too. I've been wanting to get the Kahler route fixed for years and I have contacted Dan Erlewine to do it for me. He gave me a great price on fixing it. I'm stoked. I have a few more pix I'll put in another thread if anybody wants to see them since the max I can do is 5. Surprisingly it still sounds great and there is no way in hell I would sell it. Well almost..(I guess everything has it's price). It's my workhorse and it's travelled all over the southeast. It smells like stale cigarette smoke and don't even ask about the case smell. I've tried putting the case out in the sun but the bar smells don't seem to want to leave.
How about some pancakes?
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Re: How about some pancakes?
Cool.
How does it sound without that amount of wood?
How will it be repaired? New top or just that portion filled in?
Does that neck volute affect playability and what's it's impact on the guitar's tone?
Curious about a seriouslly mojo filled instrument.
Cool.
How does it sound without that amount of wood?
How will it be repaired? New top or just that portion filled in?
Does that neck volute affect playability and what's it's impact on the guitar's tone?
Curious about a seriouslly mojo filled instrument.
danglybanger
ReelItInologist
Re: How about some pancakes?
put a pickup in the route.
slade
put a pickup in the route.
slade
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Even better... a smoke bomb, one of those "safe" ones LOL
Even better... a smoke bomb, one of those "safe" ones LOL
Guitar Toad
Toadily Stratologist
Re: How about some pancakes?
Pancakes...makes me want to hear some Head East...Never Been Any Reason..
Pancakes...makes me want to hear some Head East...Never Been Any Reason..
Re: How about some pancakes?
Actually the hole only affected the sound a little. The body is very heavy being a pancake and to me the route made it sound a little more woody. The sustain is still there and the pickups that you see in the picture are the original T-Top buckers that came with the guitar except I took the covers off.
Dan told me he could fix it without a new top and also that he might be able to keep the burst depending on how well he could match the wood grain with a wood plug. He wouldn't be able to really tell until he got the guitar in his hands. That would be a tall order if he could but if anybody could Dan can.
I've nver understood what the problem with the volute was in the first place. It's past the nut on the underside so I'm not playing down that far anyway. I never know it's there and I have 6 other guitars to compare it to. The neck is very thin which is the way I like all my necks.
She's still a player even though I abused her so. Not worth much to anybody but me since I've had her since 1975.
LSP said:
Actually the hole only affected the sound a little. The body is very heavy being a pancake and to me the route made it sound a little more woody. The sustain is still there and the pickups that you see in the picture are the original T-Top buckers that came with the guitar except I took the covers off.
Dan told me he could fix it without a new top and also that he might be able to keep the burst depending on how well he could match the wood grain with a wood plug. He wouldn't be able to really tell until he got the guitar in his hands. That would be a tall order if he could but if anybody could Dan can.
I've nver understood what the problem with the volute was in the first place. It's past the nut on the underside so I'm not playing down that far anyway. I never know it's there and I have 6 other guitars to compare it to. The neck is very thin which is the way I like all my necks.
She's still a player even though I abused her so. Not worth much to anybody but me since I've had her since 1975.
Rich_S
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Re: How about some pancakes?
We'll be seeing that job in a Guitar Player column, I bet.beandip said:
The problem is, they didn't put volutes on them in 1959, so they must not be any good.oldschool said:
LP's of this era were common made of several pieces of wood, stacked. If you look at the edge of the guitar, you can see several layers, like a stack of pancakes.metal said:
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Back when Gibson was owned by Norlin they cut a few corners in order to satisfy shareholders. So in order to save on costs they built LPs with bodies that consisted of different layers of wood. You had a thin maple piece sandwiched between two layers of mahogany and then the maple top was added so it looks like a stack of pancakes. I probably should have taken a side picture so you could see it. I'll post it with the next set of pix. With all that wood and glue the guitars became extremely heavy. So needless to say they're not collectors items.
metal said:
Back when Gibson was owned by Norlin they cut a few corners in order to satisfy shareholders. So in order to save on costs they built LPs with bodies that consisted of different layers of wood. You had a thin maple piece sandwiched between two layers of mahogany and then the maple top was added so it looks like a stack of pancakes. I probably should have taken a side picture so you could see it. I'll post it with the next set of pix. With all that wood and glue the guitars became extremely heavy. So needless to say they're not collectors items.
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I think I did a pretty good job keeping her polished and cleaned altough close up pix will tell the tale on the back. The front has very few minor scratches though. The finish has chipped of on part of the back. I'll post a few more pix where you can see it. I always made a habit of wiping all my guitars down, after I finish playing and before I grabbed a beer.
ErikH said:
I think I did a pretty good job keeping her polished and cleaned altough close up pix will tell the tale on the back. The front has very few minor scratches though. The finish has chipped of on part of the back. I'll post a few more pix where you can see it. I always made a habit of wiping all my guitars down, after I finish playing and before I grabbed a beer.
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I don't know about that, never tried one with a volute but lets consider two things:
1 - a violin has a volute and doesn't suck
2 - (taking a bit of a leap) when the first electric guitars came out they had single coils but that doesn't mean HB's don't sound any good.
As I said, I haven't tried one with a volute but general consensus seems to be bad and I was curious.
Rich_S said:
I don't know about that, never tried one with a volute but lets consider two things:
1 - a violin has a volute and doesn't suck
2 - (taking a bit of a leap) when the first electric guitars came out they had single coils but that doesn't mean HB's don't sound any good.
As I said, I haven't tried one with a volute but general consensus seems to be bad and I was curious.
ErikH
Well-known member
Re: How about some pancakes?
My wife says mine look good for their age, those that are 10 and older. My '94 Strat has some nice battle scars on it but they don't show in pics at all.
I do the same thing, wipe 'em down after playing, usually while I'm having that beer though.oldschool said:
My wife says mine look good for their age, those that are 10 and older. My '94 Strat has some nice battle scars on it but they don't show in pics at all.
danglybanger
ReelItInologist
Re: How about some pancakes?
just like this, cause everyone ought to be more like sonic youth.
slade
just like this, cause everyone ought to be more like sonic youth.
slade
