Hawkeye Pierce
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I'm looking into a 2 x 12 or 4 x 10.
Most likely a 2 x 12.
Most likely a 2 x 12.
How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
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Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
Good workingman's amps. Not my favorite fender amp by any stretch, but a perfectly good gigging tool. Fast becoming the default touring amp for many pros, as they are easy to source from rental firms all over the world.
Good workingman's amps. Not my favorite fender amp by any stretch, but a perfectly good gigging tool. Fast becoming the default touring amp for many pros, as they are easy to source from rental firms all over the world.
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
with new tubes & speakers, one of my favorite amps
with new tubes & speakers, one of my favorite amps
texasguitarslinger
Mo Cow Bellologist
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
+1drew_half_empty said:
MikeRocker
What's Your Forum Nameologist?
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
Any recommendations for new specific tubes and speakers (both 4x10" and 2x12")? Do you need to get the amp biased for the new tubes? How do particular brands and models of each change the sound?
Thanks for the info.
Any recommendations for new specific tubes and speakers (both 4x10" and 2x12")? Do you need to get the amp biased for the new tubes? How do particular brands and models of each change the sound?
Thanks for the info.
Benjy_26
25's Nemesis
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
My favorite readily available (to me
) tube is the Electro Harmonix 6L6 Blackplate copy. It sounds very close to the NOS RCA's I had iin my Bassman. As far as speakers go, the new Patriot and Red Coat lines from Eminence are getting rave reviews from almost everybody, and they're not that expensive.
My favorite readily available (to me
) tube is the Electro Harmonix 6L6 Blackplate copy. It sounds very close to the NOS RCA's I had iin my Bassman. As far as speakers go, the new Patriot and Red Coat lines from Eminence are getting rave reviews from almost everybody, and they're not that expensive.
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Lewguitar
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Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
I had one for a short time. They sound OK when I hear others play them but when I play them I like my vintage amps much much better! They sound kind of cheap to me. The reverb is not the classic Fender reverb I'm used to either...doesn't even compare to the reverb in my '74 Super-Reverb amp.
I think a used one would be a nice first tube amp for a guy/gal who'd been playing for a couple of years, but that an experienced pro would want something richer and "better" sounding.
I had one for a short time. They sound OK when I hear others play them but when I play them I like my vintage amps much much better! They sound kind of cheap to me. The reverb is not the classic Fender reverb I'm used to either...doesn't even compare to the reverb in my '74 Super-Reverb amp.
I think a used one would be a nice first tube amp for a guy/gal who'd been playing for a couple of years, but that an experienced pro would want something richer and "better" sounding.
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
i dunno, i prefer the sound of a hotrod to a twin
as far as tubes, i liked the stock ones so i just put higher headroom ones in
and for speakers, i like the sound of the stock ones at low volumes, but they seemed to lose all the bass response at gigging volumes, and i play mostly all rock, so i put in eminence red white & blues, which is like a v30 but more american sounding, closer to the stock speaker with more balls
i dunno, i prefer the sound of a hotrod to a twin
as far as tubes, i liked the stock ones so i just put higher headroom ones in
and for speakers, i like the sound of the stock ones at low volumes, but they seemed to lose all the bass response at gigging volumes, and i play mostly all rock, so i put in eminence red white & blues, which is like a v30 but more american sounding, closer to the stock speaker with more balls
gordon_39422
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Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
Had a roomie with the 41o model. He upgraded speakers and tubes, but I'm not sure which. He also put an Accutronics Long Tank Reverb in that spiced things up a bit. It was loud with good tones, but I prefer an amp with an FX Loops for modulation pedals.....
Had a roomie with the 41o model. He upgraded speakers and tubes, but I'm not sure which. He also put an Accutronics Long Tank Reverb in that spiced things up a bit. It was loud with good tones, but I prefer an amp with an FX Loops for modulation pedals.....
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
...they have an effects loop, trust me
go to the eminence site & look at the guitar speaker cross reference, scroll down to the 2x12 or 4x10, see what eminence reccomends as replacements, then read about each speaker, and decide which one would work best for you
if you're going for a sound thats more classic fendery, i'd go for a jensen c12n or b
...they have an effects loop, trust me
go to the eminence site & look at the guitar speaker cross reference, scroll down to the 2x12 or 4x10, see what eminence reccomends as replacements, then read about each speaker, and decide which one would work best for you
if you're going for a sound thats more classic fendery, i'd go for a jensen c12n or b
texasguitarslinger
Mo Cow Bellologist
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
As far as speakers are concerned I think the Jensen C12N is awesome. Well balanced and warm but not flabby at high volumes. Lots of punch to accentuate the tube responsiveness. :smoker:
As far as speakers are concerned I think the Jensen C12N is awesome. Well balanced and warm but not flabby at high volumes. Lots of punch to accentuate the tube responsiveness. :smoker:
gordon_39422
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Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
drew_half_empty said:
gordon_39422
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Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
No, I am talking about the Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. I just went in his room and checked to make sure I was not imaginging the absence FX Loop. I stand corrected, it has an FX Loop, but Not SWITCHABLE. I shoulda said it was not a Switchable FX Loop. I would rather not have an FX Loop if I can't bypass at the press of a button. And it was built in Sep 1996 (he got it for Christmas '96). Which makes it over 8 years, nearly a decade..
I do like the amps volume and tones, but I need flexibility via SWITCHABLE FX Loop. I want to run my mod pedals through the Loop and the drive and wah pedals through the front. That way I can kill all effects with one step or set-up for the next tone without tapdancing!!
No, I am talking about the Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. I just went in his room and checked to make sure I was not imaginging the absence FX Loop. I stand corrected, it has an FX Loop, but Not SWITCHABLE. I shoulda said it was not a Switchable FX Loop. I would rather not have an FX Loop if I can't bypass at the press of a button. And it was built in Sep 1996 (he got it for Christmas '96). Which makes it over 8 years, nearly a decade..
I do like the amps volume and tones, but I need flexibility via SWITCHABLE FX Loop. I want to run my mod pedals through the Loop and the drive and wah pedals through the front. That way I can kill all effects with one step or set-up for the next tone without tapdancing!!
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
so get a boss line selector, one with a dry signal
so get a boss line selector, one with a dry signal
gordon_39422
New member
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
I'm actually trying to decide between the ProReverb and the Twin-Amp. I want to simplify my rig, but keep versatility. I wanted a lighter amp, but a light tube amp is an oxymoron. I dont need 100 watts, but I am not sure if 50 watts will be enough for medium gigs. Anyway, sorry about the confusion with the FX Loop....
I'm actually trying to decide between the ProReverb and the Twin-Amp. I want to simplify my rig, but keep versatility. I wanted a lighter amp, but a light tube amp is an oxymoron. I dont need 100 watts, but I am not sure if 50 watts will be enough for medium gigs. Anyway, sorry about the confusion with the FX Loop....
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
50 is enough
devilles have 60 tho, which is considered lethal
50 is enough
devilles have 60 tho, which is considered lethal
gordon_39422
New member
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
Right now, I run my XLR outputs from my Duoverb to the mixer, so wattage is not a problem (Duoverbs sound like crap when mic'ed). I jammed a gig on the 410 Deville, but it was tooo heavy and the tones were not versatile. The pedals through the front of amp kinda sucked out some gain. I dont know, but the Deville is not for me... Thansk for the responses. We kinda Hijacked this thread, huh?
BTW Drew, how does that Tele taste???
Right now, I run my XLR outputs from my Duoverb to the mixer, so wattage is not a problem (Duoverbs sound like crap when mic'ed). I jammed a gig on the 410 Deville, but it was tooo heavy and the tones were not versatile. The pedals through the front of amp kinda sucked out some gain. I dont know, but the Deville is not for me... Thansk for the responses. We kinda Hijacked this thread, huh?
BTW Drew, how does that Tele taste???
texasguitarslinger
Mo Cow Bellologist
Re: How are Fender Hot Rod Devilles?
Manufactured: 1996 - Present
Cabinet Style: Combo
Channels: Clean, Drive and More Drive (All share same EQ)
Control Panel: Grey top facing w/ white screened labels, controls numbered 1-12
Control Layout: In, Norm/Bright Sw, Vol, More Drive Sw, Drive, Drive/More Drive Sw, Treb, Bass, Mid, Channel Sw, Master Vol, Reverb, Presence, Preamp Out, Power Amp In, Footswitch, Pilot Lamp, Power Sw, Standby Sw
Knobs: Black "Chicken Head" Style
Cabinet: Narrow panel, 18½" x 23½" x 10½" (47 x 59.7 x 26.7 cm)
Cab Covering: Black Tolex, (Diagonal tweed [laquered and unlaquered]), Brown Tolex, Blonde Tolex, Limited Editions are finished Maple
Cab Hardware: Black plastic handle, glides
Grille: Black Tolex: Silver (Black/White/Silver), Tweed: Tweed (Oxblood/Stripe), Brown Tolex: Wheat (Beige/Brown)
Logo: Cabinet mounted, Script "Fender - Deluxe" on a black rectangular tag
Weight: 45 lbs. (20.4 Kg)
Speakers/Load: 1 x 12"/8 ohms
Speaker: Special Design Eminence Legend 125 (rated at 50 watts)
Effects: Reverb (uses same reverb tank as higher priced Fenders)
Output: 40 Watts
Preamp: Clean: 12AX7 and ½ 12AX7, Drive: Two 12AX7s
Power: Class AB1, 2 x 6L6GC
Bias: Fixed
Rectifier: Solid State
Phase Inverter: 12AX7
Other: Reverb Driver: Solid State
Reverb Recovery: Solid State
Effects Loop: Solid State
These are the specs for the Hot Rod Deluxe which are simular to the DeVille.Benjy_26 said:
Manufactured: 1996 - Present
Cabinet Style: Combo
Channels: Clean, Drive and More Drive (All share same EQ)
Control Panel: Grey top facing w/ white screened labels, controls numbered 1-12
Control Layout: In, Norm/Bright Sw, Vol, More Drive Sw, Drive, Drive/More Drive Sw, Treb, Bass, Mid, Channel Sw, Master Vol, Reverb, Presence, Preamp Out, Power Amp In, Footswitch, Pilot Lamp, Power Sw, Standby Sw
Knobs: Black "Chicken Head" Style
Cabinet: Narrow panel, 18½" x 23½" x 10½" (47 x 59.7 x 26.7 cm)
Cab Covering: Black Tolex, (Diagonal tweed [laquered and unlaquered]), Brown Tolex, Blonde Tolex, Limited Editions are finished Maple
Cab Hardware: Black plastic handle, glides
Grille: Black Tolex: Silver (Black/White/Silver), Tweed: Tweed (Oxblood/Stripe), Brown Tolex: Wheat (Beige/Brown)
Logo: Cabinet mounted, Script "Fender - Deluxe" on a black rectangular tag
Weight: 45 lbs. (20.4 Kg)
Speakers/Load: 1 x 12"/8 ohms
Speaker: Special Design Eminence Legend 125 (rated at 50 watts)
Effects: Reverb (uses same reverb tank as higher priced Fenders)
Output: 40 Watts
Preamp: Clean: 12AX7 and ½ 12AX7, Drive: Two 12AX7s
Power: Class AB1, 2 x 6L6GC
Bias: Fixed
Rectifier: Solid State
Phase Inverter: 12AX7
Other: Reverb Driver: Solid State
Reverb Recovery: Solid State
Effects Loop: Solid State
