How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

Birdman642

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I bought a Squier Vintage modified Mustang yesterday. I did a set up on it and noticed the neck had an up bow in it. I adjusted the truss rod to try to take it out. The truss rod won't budge anymore, but it still has a considerable bow in the back of the neck. I can't get any good pictures of it, otherwise I'd post some.
What can I do to fix this?
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

Things to try with no guarantee...... Tune it up to A and leave it for awhile..... Heat up the back of the neck with an incandescent light bulb and clamp some bow back into it, leaving it overnight..... OR - take it to a competent luthier and have him look it at.
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

maybe the wood against the nut (the truss rod's nut) has collapsed? There are solutions for that.
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

a squier only has a single action trussrod. it can only compensate for the string tension cupping the neck. it cannot be used to arch the neck backwards, only forwards. So, if it's got an up-bow, it is arched upwards, so you need to loosen the trussrod so you can get it arched again.

why the heck manufacturers still use a single action trussrod is beyond me.
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

I like tradition, but I don't like spending the money for it. haha!

I vote to slow roast it over an open flame for 12hrs, or use candles and recite passages for upwards of 1-2hrs.

At the very least slacken those strings and let it settle a little bit until you decide what you're doing.
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

a squier only has a single action trussrod. it can only compensate for the string tension cupping the neck. it cannot be used to arch the neck backwards, only forwards. So, if it's got an up-bow, it is arched upwards, so you need to loosen the trussrod so you can get it arched again.

why the heck manufacturers still use a single action trussrod is beyond me.

I think the OP means upbow as :

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Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

But thinking about it again, a double-action truss rod works without an anchor. If this is replaceable (easily no surgery to the fretboard), they the OP can fit a new double action and be done with it once and for all.
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

But thinking about it again, a double-action truss rod works without an anchor. If this is replaceable (easily no surgery to the fretboard), they the OP can fit a new double action and be done with it once and for all.

oh no you really don't wanna try that :D I tried it, and failed miserably. it's so incredibly difficult to do that, let alone without causing damage.
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

as someone mentioned, and it is a single rod (no idea what they use in a squire but I assume)... and it's not fixable via adding a washer... or the wood is collapsed... not fixable by just changing to lighter strings... You could probably buy a good quality neck on evilbay for $150 or less.

since it's a squire I doubt you are going to want to pay what a luthier would charge for this. You might take it to one for an evaluation tho... let him tell you what he thinks the problem is - might use that.
if it's that bad - the right way to fix it is to steam off the fretboard, sand flat, remove all glue, re-glue it. It's darn near as much work as building a neck IMO. Could look around for luthier schools near you and see if a student would take it on as a project... but you may not like it when you get it back.

you could use it as an opportunity to learn a bunch of things(this option gets my vote). remove frets, get appropriate radius sanding block, setup it up with the same bow once you have the strings off... sand it flat... maybe even sand in a little back bow. there is a good chance this would fix it permanently but no guarantee as when you sand wood its moisture is going to change in the sanded area... and it's going to change over a few days. You could anticipate that, let it sit, and hit it again with the radius block. If you did that I think your chances would go up to 70% or more. At the end of that if it isn't right you are only out the price of a sanding block, and new frets.

I had a 90's carvin that had similar bow issues(wish I knew now what I didn't know then). I had a well respected california luthier try to fix it and he gave it back to me without charge as nothing he tried worked. I live in AZ and had done a number of things to try and fix it with heat. I actually fixed it several times... but after a while it would return. out of frustration I even clamped it to a straight piece of aluminum and left it in my garage in 115degrees for a week. It fixed it again... week later it was back to normal. It still played pretty good but I like very low action and out of disgust I basically traded it for magic beans a few years back.

the way you prevent this type of issue, is to look down the neck when you are buying. if it's a little bow - that's one thing... if it's a lot - pass.

Here's wishing this turns out really well for you!
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

I took the neck into the local music store. The guy tried to turn the truss rod more, but noted it was maxed out like I said. He said he could try to twist it more, but didn't want it to break through the board. I said I had read about using heat to try to take the bow out. He said that procedure would exceed the value of the instrument, and be really time consuming. He said I would be better off buying a new neck
Needless to say... I bought a new neck from the Stratosphere
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

Problem with Mustangs is the darn things use shortscale necks

Severely limits your choices
 
Re: How do I remove an up bow from a neck?

Yeah, the guy at the shop even suggested I use a strat neck. I was said "what about the scale length?". He recanted his statement after that
 
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