How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

[jericho guitars]

This is the closest diagram to what i have:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_1v_3w_pp

But i have a 2 way ON/ON Jaguar switch like the small one here:

http://www.stewmac.com/Pickups_and_...arts/Switches/Switchcraft_Slide_Switches.html

The leads on the back of the jag switch are 6, there are 4 leads on a 3-way switch, I have no idea where to connect what and its a current problem, can someone help?

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

First of all, what do you expect the six contact slider switch to do for you?

 

[jericho guitars]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

All it is to do is switch from one pickup to the other

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

Visualise the slider switch terminals as follows;

1 2 3
4 5 6

Connect the output conductor of one pickup to terminal 1.

Connect the output conductor of the other pickup to terminal 3.

Run a cable from terminal 2 to the volume pot input.

The fourth wire on the toggle selector switch is for grounding. You could solder it to the metal body of the slider switch. Alternatively, simply trap the end of the grounding wire between the switch body and one of the mounting screws.

 

[jericho guitars]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

Visualise the slider switch terminals as follows;

1 2 3
4 5 6

Connect the output conductor of one pickup to terminal 1.

Connect the output conductor of the other pickup to terminal 3.

Run a cable from terminal 2 to the volume pot input.

The fourth wire on the toggle selector switch is for grounding. You could solder it to the metal body of the slider switch. Alternatively, simply trap the end of the grounding wire between the switch body and one of the mounting screws.

Not from #4 to the switch but from the switch body to ground? Leaving only 1,2 and 3 having been connected and a 4th from the body to the ground chain?

 

[jericho guitars]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

I wired the switch like you said and heres what happens,

Bridge pickup works, when i switch to the neck pickup, it doesnt work.

Whats weirder is that when i turn the volume down on the bridge pickup it doesnt turn all the way off, just goes down a little in volume.

Checked all leads, everything is wired properly and the pickup works, but the wiring is off somewhere.

The pickup is attached to a casing that is grounded so the switch is grounded already and i didnt run a seperate wire for it.

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

The conductor wires connected to slider switch terminals 1, 2 and 3 all carry signals. The fourth wire is strictly for grounding. It should not touch any of the switching contacts. On a practical level, it would make good sense to solder on the grounding wire before the other three.

NOTE - If the slider switch is mounted to a metal part of your guitar that is already grounded, the fourth wire from the original toggle becomes redundant. Insulate the exposed cores and tuck the end away somewhere in the control cavity.

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

I wired the switch like you said and here's what happens.

Bridge pickup works, when i switch to the neck pickup, it doesnt work.

Whats weirder is that when i turn the volume down on the bridge pickup it doesnt turn all the way off, just goes down a little in volume.

Checked all leads, everything is wired properly and the pickup works but the wiring is off somewhere.

The pickup is attached to a casing that is grounded so the switch is grounded already and i didnt run a separate wire for it.

In reverse order, the fact that the pickup is grounded does not necessarily mean that the selector switch is.

I cannot comment any further on your wiring without seeing photographs of it. ("Closest to..." is not close enough.)

I have the exact same slider switches in my Fender AVRI Jaguar - albeit with the redundant contacts omitted. The inner workings are extremely simple. A metal strip on the slider bridges two adjacent terminals.

The matter of the volume pot failing to shunt the entire signal to ground at zero implies either a bad ground connection from pot terminal 3 or damage to the resistance track and/or wiper contact. Repeated yanking on a push-pull switch mechanism can be enough to physically distort the pot casing, creating problems with the internal contact. If there is a treble bleed network wired in between pot terminals 1 and 2, this could be negating the effectiveness of the pot.

 

[jericho guitars]

Re: How do i trade a 3-way switch to a 2-way ON/ON Jaguar switch?

Sir, you are awesome, thank you for your help.

It was the North Finish/South Finish wires, not properly touching the coil tapping section of the volume pot.

You are a golden god.

Thank you