How do the "extra" ceramic magnets affect tone?
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Cynical
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You're aware that a Black Winter basically is a Distortion with helper mags, right?
Clint 55
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Yeah sure. They sound completely different.
Yeah sure. They sound completely different.
Rex_Rocker
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I don't think they sound completely different. But it's definitely not just a Distortion with side magnets. The wire insulation is visibly different on the 'Winter. I think the BW is noticeably related to the Distortion, but unarguably not just a DD with more magnets.
I don't think they sound completely different. But it's definitely not just a Distortion with side magnets. The wire insulation is visibly different on the 'Winter. I think the BW is noticeably related to the Distortion, but unarguably not just a DD with more magnets.
frankfalbo
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Re: How do the "extra" ceramic magnets affect tone?
I wouldn’t recommend it, it’s a recipe for degaussing. The flanking magnets are opposing the center magnet. When together, they form a magnetic circuit by directing flux up the poles, but only even then, only the screw coil has a keeper bar. Ceramic won’t degauss in that circuit but the Alnico will change asymmetrically.
I wouldn’t recommend it, it’s a recipe for degaussing. The flanking magnets are opposing the center magnet. When together, they form a magnetic circuit by directing flux up the poles, but only even then, only the screw coil has a keeper bar. Ceramic won’t degauss in that circuit but the Alnico will change asymmetrically.
frankfalbo
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Yeah if I had to guess, it’s the wire from the Alternative 8, but that the similarities end there.
Yeah if I had to guess, it’s the wire from the Alternative 8, but that the similarities end there.
Re: How do the "extra" ceramic magnets affect tone?
The schecter apocalypse pickups are something like that IIRC,,,,or it might be the other way around.
I think I looked for specs awhile back on them and could not find any exacting info.
The schecter apocalypse pickups are something like that IIRC,,,,or it might be the other way around.
I think I looked for specs awhile back on them and could not find any exacting info.
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Thanks for your insights, Frank. Would you mind giving your views on how BKP does it with their Juggernaut? That pickup has two rows of screw polepieces, thus two keeper bars. Would that aid in solving the degaussing issue?
Thanks for your insights, Frank. Would you mind giving your views on how BKP does it with their Juggernaut? That pickup has two rows of screw polepieces, thus two keeper bars. Would that aid in solving the degaussing issue?
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frankfalbo
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Re: How do the "extra" ceramic magnets affect tone?
It closes the magnetic circuit and gives the flux a direct path. It’s a lot better but I still don’t like it. It’s even plausible that their C8 isn’t that much stronger than the fully charged A5. But it’s not about that, it’s the permanency of C8. And we’ll probably never know. I’m certainly not going to study it, and over time the changes will be so gradual that people probably won’t notice either. There was a time in the 70s and 80s when people first started to recharge their PAFs and were shocked at the difference.
It closes the magnetic circuit and gives the flux a direct path. It’s a lot better but I still don’t like it. It’s even plausible that their C8 isn’t that much stronger than the fully charged A5. But it’s not about that, it’s the permanency of C8. And we’ll probably never know. I’m certainly not going to study it, and over time the changes will be so gradual that people probably won’t notice either. There was a time in the 70s and 80s when people first started to recharge their PAFs and were shocked at the difference.
Bowtomecha
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I recently made a ceramic flank fit a pegasus. I think it just made the screw coil louder despite me lowering the screws down all the way. The mojotone black magic is supposed to be an A5 with one ceramic flank as well. It has two screw coils each with a metal spacer. I’m not sure how they balance things unless the A5 only screw coil is maybe raised to make up for things. I’m still trying to make things work with my Pegasus. I think the key is a double thick A5 as that is supposed to lessen the degaussing. The juggernaut uses a double thick A5 I think.
I recently made a ceramic flank fit a pegasus. I think it just made the screw coil louder despite me lowering the screws down all the way. The mojotone black magic is supposed to be an A5 with one ceramic flank as well. It has two screw coils each with a metal spacer. I’m not sure how they balance things unless the A5 only screw coil is maybe raised to make up for things. I’m still trying to make things work with my Pegasus. I think the key is a double thick A5 as that is supposed to lessen the degaussing. The juggernaut uses a double thick A5 I think.
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