How do you use your delay for rhythm?
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bungalowbill
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Re: How do you use your delay for rhythm?
I set it for 1 quick light slap. It works well for a clean rockabilly type sound.
Toy around with it and you will find your sweet spot.
I set it for 1 quick light slap. It works well for a clean rockabilly type sound.
Toy around with it and you will find your sweet spot.
Re: How do you use your delay for rhythm?
I think that using delay for rhythm without a tap tempo is pretty near impossible, at least in a live band setting. You really need to be able to tap the tempo in with the drummer to keep the beat
I usually like a few dotted 8th notes then myself with fairly low repeats just to create a little bit of the Edge/U2 vibe
You've got to be pretty accurate with your timing though or else the whole thing makes one big train wreck as the repeats clash
I think that using delay for rhythm without a tap tempo is pretty near impossible, at least in a live band setting. You really need to be able to tap the tempo in with the drummer to keep the beat
I usually like a few dotted 8th notes then myself with fairly low repeats just to create a little bit of the Edge/U2 vibe
You've got to be pretty accurate with your timing though or else the whole thing makes one big train wreck as the repeats clash
Rich_S
HomeGrownToneBrewologist
Re: How do you use your delay for rhythm?
I use mine for the rockabilly slap thing, and also for the Andy Summers/Edge kind of rhythmic echos. Been using delays like that for over 20 years, and I've never owned a unit with tap tempo. Andy Summer played all the Police stuff with a=n Echoplex and an analog delay stomp box - no tap tempo. I think the Edge used a Memory Man, and/or a Korg (SDD-2000?) digital delay - no tap tempo.
It requires a bit of planning ahead, and a lot of rehearsal and discipline within the band, in order to keep steady tempo.
Listen to U2's "11 O'Clock Tick Tock" off Under a Blood Red Sky. Right before the song starts, there's a measure of quiet guitar, followed by a ringing harmonic as the drummer counts them in. That little rhythm part isn't the Edge fooling around, or making sure this guitar is turned up - it's him getting the beat off his delay so the band knows how fast to play the song.
I use mine for the rockabilly slap thing, and also for the Andy Summers/Edge kind of rhythmic echos. Been using delays like that for over 20 years, and I've never owned a unit with tap tempo. Andy Summer played all the Police stuff with a=n Echoplex and an analog delay stomp box - no tap tempo. I think the Edge used a Memory Man, and/or a Korg (SDD-2000?) digital delay - no tap tempo.
It requires a bit of planning ahead, and a lot of rehearsal and discipline within the band, in order to keep steady tempo.
Listen to U2's "11 O'Clock Tick Tock" off Under a Blood Red Sky. Right before the song starts, there's a measure of quiet guitar, followed by a ringing harmonic as the drummer counts them in. That little rhythm part isn't the Edge fooling around, or making sure this guitar is turned up - it's him getting the beat off his delay so the band knows how fast to play the song.
ModestCargo
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Re: How do you use your delay for rhythm?
The only way I've ever really used my delay is light rockabilly type slap, so it works for rhythm and lead.
The only way I've ever really used my delay is light rockabilly type slap, so it works for rhythm and lead.
PFDarkside
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Re: How do you use your delay for rhythm?
Rich, while I agree with you that skilled musicians can all sync to a predetermined delay tempo, isn't that a bit like saying people have used slide rules for years to do calculations, why do you need a computer? It's available in digital, analog sim and even analog pedals now. I just figure if a feature is available, why not use it.
To the OP, unless I specifically want that rockabilly slap or rhythmic delay, I find myself not using delay more than I use it. Once in a while I set up a random short time with only two repeats for a little ambience, I find the analog/analog sim's high end roll off to be more pleasing on these settings.
Rich, while I agree with you that skilled musicians can all sync to a predetermined delay tempo, isn't that a bit like saying people have used slide rules for years to do calculations, why do you need a computer? It's available in digital, analog sim and even analog pedals now. I just figure if a feature is available, why not use it.
To the OP, unless I specifically want that rockabilly slap or rhythmic delay, I find myself not using delay more than I use it. Once in a while I set up a random short time with only two repeats for a little ambience, I find the analog/analog sim's high end roll off to be more pleasing on these settings.
Re: How do you use your delay for rhythm?
Its certainly not to say it can't be done but tap tempo makes life a heck of a lot easier though. Less planning and much easier keeping sync with the rest of the band.
With so many units, both analog and digital that now feature tap tempo I think it would be a little silly not to use it these days.
I don't know about Andy Summers but I'm pretty sure I've seen the Edge using a line6 DL4 and I'd guess making use of the tap tempo feature.
When I was in school we didn't have computers and we'd have to type term papers on a type writer. It certainly worked fine and produced a good finished product but it was sure a pain if you screwed up.
Today with pc's and MS word I think it would be pretty silly to still use a type writer when other options exist to make life easier.
That said, the DMM is still an amazing sounding pedal, but its a bit trickly for live use if you want to do some rhythmic stuff with it.
Its certainly not to say it can't be done but tap tempo makes life a heck of a lot easier though. Less planning and much easier keeping sync with the rest of the band.
With so many units, both analog and digital that now feature tap tempo I think it would be a little silly not to use it these days.
I don't know about Andy Summers but I'm pretty sure I've seen the Edge using a line6 DL4 and I'd guess making use of the tap tempo feature.
When I was in school we didn't have computers and we'd have to type term papers on a type writer. It certainly worked fine and produced a good finished product but it was sure a pain if you screwed up.
Today with pc's and MS word I think it would be pretty silly to still use a type writer when other options exist to make life easier.
That said, the DMM is still an amazing sounding pedal, but its a bit trickly for live use if you want to do some rhythmic stuff with it.
