How many frets do you prefer?

How many frets do you prefer?


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Re: How many frets do you prefer?

Don't really like 21 so much.
22 is my preferred minimum and hence my vote. 24 is cool, but I don't *need* it really, even though I currently have and have also owned in the past guitars with 24 frets.
Definitely not at all averse to over 24 though
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

I like black dot inlays on a maple board. I've had and enjoyed 21 and 22 fret strats, but I'll go with 22.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

How do you beat the high fret access on an SG or Flying V?

Didn't consider them because I don't have either. I do have an SG lying around but it's a bolt on so the access is different, but my two most played guitars are a Tele and a Strat. That was my judgement bar, although I don't really mind playing high up on those two guitars either. The heel on those two is at the 17th fret, the Jackson is midway between the 18th and 19th frets so it's just a tad comfier.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

Didn't consider them because I don't have either. I do have an SG lying around but it's a bolt on so the access is different, but my two most played guitars are a Tele and a Strat. That was my judgement bar, although I don't really mind playing high up on those two guitars either. The heel on those two is at the 17th fret, the Jackson is midway between the 18th and 19th frets so it's just a tad comfier.

The body/neck junction on set neck SG's is at the 22nd fret, and that design is over 50 years old.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

I prefer 24 frets, because the 22nd fret is easier to reach than on a guitar that was built around 22 frets.

With several guitars (especially my Jacksons), I've found that there's a distinct design difference between 22 and 24 fret versions of the same model. Rather than just scoot the neck pickup back 2" to make room for the extra 2 frets (like Warmoth's idiotic 24 fret necks with the extra-long fretboard), the hole layout or body styling had to be changed in such a manner as to provide better access to the last fret - whether by moving the bridge closer to the neck so that the neck joins the body at the 19th fret as opposed to the 17th fret of the same model in a 22 fret format, or the lower horn has a deeper cutaway.

Either change to the body design results in the 22nd fret being outside the body, similar to the way the SG is, as blueman mentioned.

If you can find pics of 24 and 22 fret versions of the same guitar and compare the positions of the hardware and the lower horn depth, you'll see it clearly (barring those guitars where they simply pushed the bridge pickup back).
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

The body/neck junction on set neck SG's is at the 22nd fret, and that design is over 50 years old.

Yes I understand but I didn't consider those designs when I wrote the post because I don't play a set neck SG or Flying V. Thus, they don't affect my preferences/experience with guitars thus far.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

Yes I understand but I didn't consider those designs when I wrote the post because I don't play a set neck SG or Flying V. Thus, they don't affect my preferences/experience with guitars thus far.

Same here, so I guess we're both heretics who must die in holy fire :lol:

I've seen pics of SGs where the 22nd fret was on the very end of the body, but the '74 and '76 SG Standards I had were not like that. Body joined the neck at the 20th, IIRC. Same with the '85 and Faded Gibson Vs I've owned.
 
How many frets do you prefer?

For errbody that says that they don't play much above the 12th fret, I've got a question for you. I have no issue with that philosophy, but I'm just curious, do you guys not play chords on the upper register? I love doing that.

Yeah, I do, pretty often...but not really much full barring beyond the 12th fret. I'm comfortable and fluid up till around the 15th, really, and with some simple 15th or 17th fret full-step bends. I do a lot of three note chords up there, or simple two note intervals. I don't really think of it as what most people think of when they talk about playing high on the neck...deliberately going up there specifically to play high notes. When I go up there, it's just the stuff I'd normally play on the rest of the neck kind of "overhanging" a bit into that upper area.
 
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Re: How many frets do you prefer?

Neck pickups are for wooftahs. :)

Says the guy with a volume knob

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Re: How many frets do you prefer?

22, mostly because I don't like the way the neck pickup sounds on a 24 fret guitar--I like it under that harmonic.

Bill
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

I like 24 for the pickup positioning. I find the inner split coil combo sound strattier due to the spacing. I also like the less muddy sounding neck pickup.

What I don't have a use for is the 23rd and 24th frets! I never use them.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

22. I drop tune and it makes the lowest note and the highest note the same but different octaves.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

22, mostly because I don't like the way the neck pickup sounds on a 24 fret guitar--I like it under that harmonic.

Bill

I seriously never even thought of that but you're probably right! I am amazed.... I'm Going to pay more attention to that now.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

I seriously never even thought of that but you're probably right! I am amazed.... I'm Going to pay more attention to that now.

Yep. I tune to Drop Db usually. And the note on the 22nd fret of the Eb string is Db. It's part of the reason I love drop tuning. The other reason is that most 24.75" guitars are 22 frets and I've gotten used to that scale length. I can play others for sure, but I prefer the Gibson scale length. 25.5" guitars tend to be smaller bodied and I'm a big guy so semi hollows and Explorers for me.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

21 or 22 is fine for me. I think any higher doesn't really play to the guitars strengths.

Think of it like a human voice, you have a range you speak in, it goes lower when you are speaking quietly, tiredly or when you are speaking aggressively, it goes higher when you are whimsical, or when you sing with power. At the top of your voice range you have the falsetto, a range that your voice isn't naturally adapted to use, a range that sounds a little unnatural and imperfect, but is suitable for time to time for musical effect.

I think the same way about the fretboard, I think the most beautiful and powerful range of the guitar is in the midrange, though as a stringed instrument we have an advantage of strong clear low notes due to the nature of open strings and frets (whereas a wind instrument or voice begins to get windy or run out of steam at the lowest part of their range). The best part of the guitar fretboard, to my ears, is between maybe the third fret and the 10th fret. It's a place that we can get warmth and power that few other instruments can. If you look at sheet music written for the guitar, there is always a little note saying '8vb', indicating that the piece is meant to be played an octave below what is displayed. The guitar IS a low instrument, and I feel like the lower-middle frets are the ones that take advantage of a fairly unique tonal range that we can access. Try playing with an alto sax player, a female singer, a bass player. You'll quickly realise that you have that range all to yourself, there will be zero clashing with any other instrument in the band.

The upper-midrange of the guitar still sounds beautiful, though the notes start to lose their sustain, and they lack the power of the lower notes. This is like the beautiful, slightly breathier part at the top of your range. It can be used to add accent to something, it can be used to add beauty and lightness to a solo or melody. It's a pretty range, not a warm range.

Then you hit the top of the guitar, those last few frets, maybe from the high A and up. This is the guitars falsetto range. The nature of the physics behind a fretted string instrument start to show their weaknesses up here. You lose the sustain, your notes begin to sound plinky. Even the lower notes down on the other 5 strings have lost most of their warmth and body as the distance between frets has gotten smaller. This is the range for character, a brief display of your virtuosity and range, a few small dips into the range to pull out that plinky/sharp texture and you move away. Use it for the colour, not the 'tone' it brings. Use it because you have to hit the notes for the sake of the melody, not for the sake of playing up high.

That's why I don't feel the need for more than 22 frets ever, I feel like anything higher and you are starting to play out of the natural range of the instrument. These are just my thoughts, keep in mind that I've taken courses in university on what amounts to the philosophy of music/art, so I've spent more time thinking about this kind of stuff than is probably normal, so take it all with a grain of salt.
 
Re: How many frets do you prefer?

22 frets and no inlays. Side dots is all I need. (I don't understand how some stare at the inlays when playing...)
 
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