how much do you spend on a custom guitar?

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you have some soundclips? i'd like to hear them. i've heard good things about carvin
 
Re: how much do you spend on a custom guitar?

how much does it typically cost you to build one of those custom strats or superstrats? i've seen a lot of warmoth customs here in the forums, but i'm thinking they cost as much as fender. who can enlighten me?


My Warmoth/Chandler was done in 1995/96... been a while since then and i plan another one.... but it cost me around $1600 Canadian in total back then... At the time Warmoth did not do finnishing work so i had a guitar maker spray nitro on the neck... The body was a Chandler body that was hanging on the wall prefinnished and cost me $430 alone... Nice finnished Fame top...

Anyways i love the whole kit guitar thing.... you pick and choose every detail and most cases you end up with a perfect axe if done right... The key is use a great guitar maker in your area to do the build... sure they cost but it is key!!! They can do all the finnishing touches that makes great parts into an amazing axe...

The down side to Warmoth type kit guitars is the resale values are poor... say you spend $1600 to $1800 Canadian on a really nice Warmoth and have to sell it off... it will be a $600 guitar for resale..... Yet if you spend $1800 on say a Fender or Ernie Ball it will be worth a fair bit because of the brand name... something to think about


But like i said a customized kit guitar, with quality parts, and a Quality guitar maker... it is hard to go wrong.. it should be a great axe..
 
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USACG have an ex fender custom shop guy working with them now so that puts their quality up. Their necks have always been 10x better than warmoths imo

I thought that USACG always had 'Sean' i think is his name that used to work for the Fender custom shop.

Sometimes, I like to search Ebay's accessories, and click on bodies, necks, bridges. If you're patient and snipe auctions, you can build something good for a decent price. I like to look at US Fender necks that came off guitars, so the nuts are already cut. Then, add one of those to the rest of the parts, and it's all setup, and no luthier-level assembly. As long as you can setup a guitar, it'll fall into place easily.

What Joneser said is probably the easiest best way to assemble a really good parts guitar at THE best price. All assembly with close to 0 luthier time. That is if all the parts fit perfectly and you dont mess up somehow on your choices.

The problem with parts guitars like warmoth and usacg is that you really need to know what you want. Since you are the sole designer. Sure the MIA strats which they put together arent anything special, at least in my opinion, but i think that it takes time and money for Fender to research the darn thing in the first place.
That is before Fender or whatever co. start mass producing something. i assume they must research it. So they start by putting together a bunch of parts and designing a guitar that is cost effective ( depending what Quality line its from) for them to make and at the same time does what they want it to do. So with experienced luthiers/designers they sit down and put together a guitar that is within the budget that upper management gives them and they come up with a product which best fits the marketing target.

The problem is that when we make our 'parts' guitars WE are the sole designers and luthiers. So many times although we may put together better parts per se, the end result might not be as effective. Or in other cases it might take more time, money and tries to get it right. this is what happened to me in one instance in building. Luckly for me it came out better than a custom shop jobbie. but it did cost quite a bit. and i might have not been that lucky.

The mistake i have made in making these assumptions is that we look at a mass produced guitar and think, " well the parts on this guitar arent anything special" when we fail to see the research that went into making it in the first place.
For example I remeber when the EVH guitar series came out alot of us, including me went ape**** over the price. Although i do still think it is overpriced, they must have trashed a bunch of guitars/parts before finalizing the design. In the design i mean, the type of wood they will use for the body, the average weight of it ( for consistency), the neck wood and shape, and all the combinations ( tuning keys, pickups, pots, etc..) they used for parts. In a nutshell when we see the final guitar they sell we dont see the stack of bodies, necks and parts they 'wasted' to come up with the final product.

So if you dont know exactly what you are looking for, you are taking a crap shoot kinda at making a guitar.
If i had the money and resources i could DEFINATELY improve on the design of my guitar. Yes it is already a great guitar, but by 'fine tuning' the parts i could come up with something even better. This is what we reffer to as upgrading our guitars. Which does cost money and time. For example, the neck of my guitar i would want next time to be unfinished, assymetrical, and a tad bit thicker. This to me would up the tone and playability. Dont get me wrong, it is a really great guitar, but it can always be better.

On the flipside of it, you can come up with something really special. Which i think my latest project took me close to. But still we cant be sure of the final result as you can with a guitar you go and actually play.
 
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It really depends on what you're going for. If it's something that's basically already out there, you may be better off changing something that already exists. I made a copy of EVH's first frankenstrat for my brother out of an old Peavey Predator. It cost about $250 total, and he's more than happy with the tone, feel, and everything else. If you start getting more fancy, sometimes you have to start ordering things specifically for you.

Keep in mind Warmoth and USACG only do bolt-ons, so you've got to go elsewhere for other neck constructions.

A truely custom built instrument from an experienced luthier is a thing of beauty.
 
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Just my thoughts after spending most of my adult life in the Warmoth website without being able to make the final choise on something :smack:

I think that the best way to make your own custom guitar is to decide on the style, buy one and then start making mods until you get closer... Yngwie scalloped his necks on his own when he started because there were not too many luthiers around to do it right, EVH made the Frankenstrat out of two cheap pieces of wood and parts he took of a Gibson and a Strat, Clapton's Blacie is the same story.
Choose your weapon, get the right body, you'll find out you want to change the neck or change frets after buying it, play with pups and hardware... etc...
There's no way you'll know weather a Clapton back contour or a Standard thin is better for you just from reading the material on Warmoth...
Making the right custom guitar for yourself might take more time then money. There are guys, like EVH that kept on changing their axes forever, sometimes for experiments sometimes because they were not happy... there are guys that could walk into a pawnshop and do magic on an old beat up guitar and get their signature tone on it, to each his own.
The thing is, and I might get some angry replies here, you could probably do the same with Mighty Mite body pieces or a cheaper guitar after changing enough hardware compared to a custom made Warmoth with all the parts arriving at once leaving you with no spare change in your pocket.

BTW,
I think that the new Highway 1 models are where I'm going to start when I'll finaly get out of the financial slump I'm having (car problems every month :().
 
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If you are into DIY, don't mind the fact you won't be able to resell it, you can make an awesome guitar for short change. I basically made my ultimate strat for under 600 dollars or so (ash, wilkinson trem, burgundy mist nitro, lace sensorts, locking tuners, graphite nut etc.). It gets more expensive when you get more particular about parts or finishes and so forth (also, it gets more expensive when you do something other than a strat).

But yeah, if you get the perfect neck from USAGP, a nice body in the color you want from ebay...the parts will all work together, just bolt it together and take it to a professional for set-up. It's a lot of fun apart from anything.
 
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So in summation: do it if you enjoy the process (shopping, building, fiddling, restringing). Or if you have the $ to just get something made by G+L or usagp or warmoth. It is worth it as long as you're doing it for yourself, you know?
 
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