How Subtle are You?

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: How Subtle are You?

If he's using an 1176, he may be doing the 'all buttons' thing. An 1176 has four buttons for the compression ratio, and it'll do a really cool distortion thing if you push in all of them at once. I've recorded in a studio that had one, and I wish I could afford one for home; it made my guitar sound like awesome. I doubt your Tone Press will do the same thing, but there are several 1176-inspired compressor pedals now. If you're lucky, maybe one of them will do the 'all buttons' or 'british' mode.

The player who suggested it has a SlideRig too, something that's been on my radar for some time. I don't think the Cali76 has anything like that but I could be wrong. He said something about 40dB of makeup gain in his post that made me think that the distortion he's talking about could be amp-input distortion due to extreme boost, perhaps with a different feel (or color) due to the compression. But he maintains that it's from the compressor itself. Perhaps it is the all-buttons thing after all. Not sure, but it it sounded as if he was suggesting that most comp pedals could produce this effect; another reason why I though he might be talking about boost flavored by compression rather than compression itself.

Online, you can never really be sure how much somebody really knows regarding what they're talking about. Still, I was inclined to believe anybody using an 1176 was coming from a studio background.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: How Subtle are You?

Tip: To add reverb to your guitar track without drowning it out, try this:

Pipe your guitar track out (buss) to a delay set anywhere from say 25-100ms (100ms is fantastic).
After the delay, add your reverb (100% wet)

Pan the 100% dry tone left and the delayed, 100% wet reverb right.

The short delay before the reverb wash gives the dry tone room to breathe...

Sound familiar? It should: it's the VH1 reverb trick (Ted Templeman / Donn Landee).

Not sure about pedals, but I think most modern digital reverbs have a predelay function built in.

 

[LLL]

Re: How Subtle are You?

Not sure about pedals, but I think most modern digital reverbs have a predelay function built in.

They do, and can be used.

I didn't mention that the panning L/R part is (also) key to allowing the dry tone to stay solid.

Another extra (which I myself haven't tried yet but will) is using an Eventide for the delay and detuning a few cents...
which gives you a detuned, delayed reverb. And as usual, you can EQ it as well for more tweaking.

If one were doing this live, they'd need a dry-wet type of rig.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: How Subtle are You?

I haven't even begun to explore the possibilities of the H9 I got for my jam board. I don't use 'verb a lot these days in my gig rack, still over the years I've found predelay to be a great tool for having more wash available without swamping the tone. I used it back in the 80s on a Yamaha Rev7, then with an SPX900 in the early 90s.