How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

astrozombie

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I heard everything from super glue to wood glue etc.

I can use a small clamp and i think it was Metal Maniac who said to put leather between the frets and the clamp.

can I use a leather guitar strap? will this harm the finish?

i was thinking i can use cover both sides of the neck with the strap and put the clamp on.

will the leather hurt the finish?

thanks again.
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

regular wood glue
Elmers or Titebond

cover and clamp

belt or leather strap

why not let gibson do the repair?
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

Leather won't hurt the finish, but I'd put a piece of wax paper between the inlay and the strap.

The strap's to protect the finish from the clamp. The wax paper is to keep any glue that squeezes out from bonding to the strap. ;)
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

I would use two-part epoxy, as it gives you working time, and it cleans up better than, and is more durable/less brittle than, super glue over time. Aliphatic resin glue, A.K.A. white/wood glue, is not a good choice. It just won't work. It's not meant to hold plastic to wood.

To clamp a finished object properly, you need padded clamps, or cauls – things that go in between the clamp and the object being clamped. Custom cut, thin-cork-lined blocks of wood are the best choice. You want a lining that is soft, yet which is not too thick, and which gets hard when compressed. I always use 1/16" cork. I guess leather would work instead of cork, though I've never used it myself. On the top caul especially, due to the nature of how fretboard inlays work (inset on a curved surface), you really want the caul to match the curvature of the fretboard, in order to seat the inlay just right as the glue sets, minimizing the amount of touchup sanding you'll have to do to get it flush. You also want to use a little waxed paper in between the caul and the fretboard/inlay, so if there is any glue squeezeout, it will glue the wax paper to the fretboard instead of the cork (much easier to remove, and won't screw up your custom-made caul). You WILL need to do touchup sanding and polishing.

In short, on first glance, it sounds like a simple job that any idiot can do, but there are special tools and procedures involved to do it ideally, and there are also 10 ways you can easily screw it up if you aren't particularly mechanically skilled or experienced. It's a $2,000+ thing, you really don't know what you're doing (you had to come ask a guitar forum, and already got at least one piece of really bad advice), it's still under warranty, and you working on it will void the warranty. And, as I already went over in grisly detail in your OTHER thread about this subject (because you apparently didn't bother to read your own warranty), this repair will likely be covered under warranty, so you can get a Gibson authorized repair shop to do it [hopefully properly] for free. It'll be simple, free, done right (or at least any screw ups will be on them, not you), and it will maintain your warranty. There's really only one prudent course of action to take, and it baffles me why you seem to be fighting against taking it. It should be done already, but you keep posting about it.
 
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Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

There's no shame in sending in for work under warranty. There is shame if you **** your own guitar up, which is very possible. Make the smart decision, not the hard one.
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

I would use two-part epoxy, as it gives you working time, and it cleans up better than, and is more durable/less brittle than, super glue over time. Aliphatic resin glue, A.K.A. white/wood glue, is not a good choice. It just won't work. It's not meant to hold plastic to wood.

To clamp a finished object properly, you need padded clamps, or cauls – things that go in between the clamp and the object being clamped. Custom cut, thin-cork-lined blocks of wood are the best choice. You want a lining that is soft, yet which is not too thick, and which gets hard when compressed. I always use 1/16" cork. I guess leather would work instead of cork, though I've never used it myself. On the top caul especially, due to the nature of how fretboard inlays work (inset on a curved surface), you really want the caul to match the curvature of the fretboard, in order to seat the inlay just right as the glue sets, minimizing the amount of touchup sanding you'll have to do to get it flush. You also want to use a little waxed paper in between the caul and the fretboard/inlay, so if there is any glue squeezeout, it will glue the wax paper to the fretboard instead of the cork (much easier to remove, and won't screw up your custom-made caul). You WILL need to do touchup sanding and polishing.

In short, on first glance, it sounds like a simple job that any idiot can do, but there are special tools and procedures involved to do it ideally, and there are also 10 ways you can easily screw it up if you aren't particularly mechanically skilled or experienced. It's a $2,000+ thing, you really don't know what you're doing (you had to come ask a guitar forum, and already got at least one piece of really bad advice), it's still under warranty, and you working on it will void the warranty. And, as I already went over in grisly detail in your OTHER thread about this subject (because you apparently didn't bother to read your own warranty), this repair will likely be covered under warranty, so you can get a Gibson authorized repair shop to do it [hopefully properly] for free. It'll be simple, free, done right (or at least any screw ups will be on them, not you), and it will maintain your warranty. There's really only one prudent course of action to take, and it baffles me why you seem to be fighting against taking it. It should be done already, but you keep posting about it.

Yes this. Quoted for truth!
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

I would use two-part epoxy, as it gives you working time, and it cleans up better than, and is more durable/less brittle than, super glue over time. Aliphatic resin glue, A.K.A. white/wood glue, is not a good choice. It just won't work. It's not meant to hold plastic to wood.

To clamp a finished object properly, you need padded clamps, or cauls – things that go in between the clamp and the object being clamped. Custom cut, thin-cork-lined blocks of wood are the best choice. You want a lining that is soft, yet which is not too thick, and which gets hard when compressed. I always use 1/16" cork. I guess leather would work instead of cork, though I've never used it myself. On the top caul especially, due to the nature of how fretboard inlays work (inset on a curved surface), you really want the caul to match the curvature of the fretboard, in order to seat the inlay just right as the glue sets, minimizing the amount of touchup sanding you'll have to do to get it flush. You also want to use a little waxed paper in between the caul and the fretboard/inlay, so if there is any glue squeezeout, it will glue the wax paper to the fretboard instead of the cork (much easier to remove, and won't screw up your custom-made caul). You WILL need to do touchup sanding and polishing.

In short, on first glance, it sounds like a simple job that any idiot can do, but there are special tools and procedures involved to do it ideally, and there are also 10 ways you can easily screw it up if you aren't particularly mechanically skilled or experienced. It's a $2,000+ thing, you really don't know what you're doing (you had to come ask a guitar forum, and already got at least one piece of really bad advice), it's still under warranty, and you working on it will void the warranty. And, as I already went over in grisly detail in your OTHER thread about this subject (because you apparently didn't bother to read your own warranty), this repair will likely be covered under warranty, so you can get a Gibson authorized repair shop to do it [hopefully properly] for free. It'll be simple, free, done right (or at least any screw ups will be on them, not you), and it will maintain your warranty. There's really only one prudent course of action to take, and it baffles me why you seem to be fighting against taking it. It should be done already, but you keep posting about it.

3rd time's a charm? Or a strong message recommending the best course of action for you to follow, even though it doesn't seem to be the one you want to hear.

So how about: Yeah, just glue it in with Elmer's and rock on!
Disclaimer: This is not a serious recommendation and if the OP follows the Elmers glue advice, I will not be held liable or responsible for the consequences to his guitar.
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

I will not be held liable or responsible for the consequences to his guitar.


that's why I don't get in to too many suggestions on things: the chance of eventually crossing someone that doesn't realize they shouldn't be doing any sort of repair and wants to find someone to blame for their lack of ability. disclaimer: which is in no way a reference to astrozombie. disclaimer: or anyone else in this thread. disclaimer: or anyone that may or may not be offended by any thing at any time.
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

that's why I don't get in to too many suggestions on things: the chance of eventually crossing someone that doesn't realize they shouldn't be doing any sort of repair and wants to find someone to blame for their lack of ability. disclaimer: which is in no way a reference to astrozombie. disclaimer: or anyone else in this thread. disclaimer: or anyone that may or may not be offended by any thing at any time.

Your wisdom is like no other.
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was either tonewood, or someone whose name begins with "D" and ends in "rex".
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

What three-letter word does the forum block out? I can't think of any offhand. Made me think they were manual asterisks. I thought it might be F-U-Dood. Ha!

Testing:

Tit
Pud
Cum

???
 
Re: How to glue inlay back into fretboard?

Never head the term pud before. I went straight to the urban dictionary so now i know its a donger,
 
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