How to properly check neck relief, tutorial. Vault Worthy!

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Re: How to properly check neck relief, tutorial. Vault Worthy!

Just as clarification for some who may not know or may have missed it before, you recommend doing this with the neck under tension, right Dave?
 
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Yes, with the guitar in tune!
 
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Surgeon said:
Assuming that I understood your question right (which may not be the case ;)) making a template with a wacked-out guitar should not be a problem, except in the case where you use a really-really-really (you get the idea) messed up guitar where the scale-lenght is not accurate (and therefore the frets are not spaced as they should be).... A straight-edge will remain a straight-edge whether the neck is curved as heck or not. What you wanna do with this exercise is get an idea (rough approximation) of the frets spacing. Since you're going to make the slots wider than the actual frets (and that odie specified that you'll probably need to re-grind some of 'em) you only get an approximation, which is what we want. Of course if the neck's as curved as a bow you'd be way off but I don't think anybody would (or should) used a guitar THAT screwed-up as a template....

Second, all the notches have to do is not touch the frets, their dept doesn't matter....

Odie: Great tutorial indeed...thanks

Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm missing something (or if I am actually not reading your question right T4D:))
Bingo!!! Thank you for answering that!!!

Scott F, as I explained earlier, eyeballing it is OK but, you will not be able to detect defects and the accuracy of eyeballing it is not nearly as good for a number of reasons that I have already stated. I used to eyeball it a long time ago but, I guarntee you this is alot better!!
 
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tone4days said:
i have a comment that IN NO WAY is intended to question theodie's MOST EXCELLENT tutorial .... being a bear of very little brain, it popped into the void space in my skull that using the guitar to mark off where the fret notches should be on the yard stick would only be useful if the guitar was in perfect shape to begin with ... if the guitar was out of whack, all this would do would be to generate a template on how to make other guitars be just as 'out of whack', right?

also, how do you know how deep to cut the notches? is this a critical measurement? or is it good enough if they are deep enough to not touch the fret tops?

also, in this pic ...
tutorial5.jpg


what exactly am i looking at that is 'the point'?


thanks alot
t4d
I tried to take a picture to show the relief in the neck. This is how this tool can also find defects in a neck (by light showing under it). It can detect low and high spots that using the string and pushing down the first and last frets will not show you!
 
Re: How to properly check neck relief, tutorial. Vault Worthy!

thanks dave

so - if there were no relief and no defects, there'd by no light shining between the edge of the yardstick and the fingerboard? as you add a touch of relief, you get some daylight starting to show?

t4d
 
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tone4days said:
thanks dave

so - if there were no relief and no defects, there'd by no light shining between the edge of the yardstick and the fingerboard? as you add a touch of relief, you get some daylight starting to show?

t4d
Yep, that's about it. Note that Theodie spots at the 8th fret, meaning that, somewhere further down the neck there might be some light showing underneath the stick...

*also serves as a bump for theodie to look up T4d's question* ;)
 
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Re: How to properly check neck relief, tutorial. Vault Worthy!

tone4days said:
thanks dave

so - if there were no relief and no defects, there'd by no light shining between the edge of the yardstick and the fingerboard? as you add a touch of relief, you get some daylight starting to show?

t4d
Right on my brotha!!!

It just needs to be set to the specs I have listed in the first page!

Surgeon is right on the money!!!!!
 
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yeah that would be really helpfull, seems like something i really need to have to setup my guitar.
 
Re: How to properly check neck relief, tutorial. Vault Worthy!

I need to set up my truss rod too
cause the fender strat i have, tuned to E standard, but with a hybrid set of 0.09 dadario strings
are buzzing in the last frets
12 to 21.
 
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