HSH wiring?

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FinnG

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Hi,
I am new to this forum. I recently bought all the components to wire a hsh strat pickguard but cant find much information on how to wire it. I have a JB in the bridge, a ssl1 in the middle and a 59 in the neck. The 59 has vintage wiring (braided) and the JB has 5 wires. I also have 3 500k pots (not push pull) a capacitor and a switch. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to wire this?
Many thanks,
Finn

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Here you go:

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For your 59, the center wire goes to the switch, and the braided shield gets grounded to the back of the pot. It also helps to run a ground wire from the base of the switch to the back of a pot.

For the tone, if you want 1 tone for neck and middle and 1 tone for bridge: move the wire that's coming from the lower tone right 1 lug on the switch then connect the wire that comes from the upper tone to the left and middle lug on the switch.

Here's the link to the full sized diagram: https://docs.google.com/gview?embed...-content/uploads/2016/05/2S_1SCH_5W_1V_2T.pdf
 

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I wired my HSH as follows:
Regular 5 way switch
Series link wires to push pulls on volume and tone one for coil splits then tone 2 is a push pull to put bridge and neck on together


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Perhaps this is oddball, but I like to wire with a 3-way switch where it operates just like a H-H guitar. Then I wire up a switch (or push-pull) to add the middle pickup. Then depending on the guitar, I might do another switch (or push-pull) to split both of the HBs. That basically makes it mimic three guitars in one depending on how the switches are set: H-H, H-S-H, and S-S-S. Along with some other sounds as well.
 
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Thank you very much! That'll help loads. Ill say how it goes. May I ask what I do with the red and white wires from the bridge?
 
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The red and white wires are actually what connect both coils of the humbucker in series. You have to solder them together and tape them off.
 
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Chad said:
Perhaps this is oddball, but I like to wire with a 3-way switch where it operates just like a H-H guitar. Then I wire up a switch (or push-pull) to add the middle pickup. Then depending on the guitar, I might do another switch (or push-pull) to split both of the HBs. That basically makes it mimic three guitars in one depending on how the switches are set: H-H, H-S-H, and S-S-S. Along with some other sounds as well.
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Not a bad idea, it's not a million miles from mine. Could use one tone as matter and the other as a middle pickup volume control like on some modified Nashville teles


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A terminal for connecting wires on the switch or pots etc. The little loops things.

Vinnie: Yas I agree, half the fun of a strat is having a ton of pickup combos to fiddle with haha.
 
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Clint 55 said:
A terminal for connecting wires on the switch or pots etc. The little loops things.

Vinnie: Yas I agree, half the fun of a strat is having a ton of pickup combos to fiddle with haha.
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It is indeed. I am about to transplant my HSH electronics and hardware into a better guitar, the neck and body I bought originally are not that good, neck too then and body trem cavity slightly skewed which causes my big block trem to snag the springs a bit.

I am also gettting rid of my coil split blender which is a volume control for the cut coils, and just going to split via a 10k resistor which will hopefully give me a fatter single coil sound to balance with the middle pick up.

The main reason is that when coil splitting I I don't really vary the blend with them I just leave it on 2, and I think have separate tone controls for the humbucker and the single coil will be more useful.


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Clint 55 said:
No more spin a split huh? What kind of wood are you getting?
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The spin a split is good, but I tended to only use one setting, and with 500 K pots all round and a master tone, the change from humbucker to middle pickup made the middle pickup rather ice pick so i think it's s good idea to have the middle dialled down a bit, and coil split with 10k resistors (I may change that, see how it goes, these are single coil voiced humbucker so when split they are a little shrill even via 4.7k, I think 10k will nail it)

The guitar is a cruiser by crafter strat copy, they are really good, I have an SSS one - the body on that I think is agathis and it's routed HSS and is the same standard as a Squier SE strat, but string spacing is vintage fender.

The new one I think the body is basswood, it's different more like a Squier standard strat - modern string spacing 22 instead of 21 frets.

It's the exact same model but different. The tuners are ok, the bridge is like a standard Squier, the pickups are ceramics and sound ok like a Squier SE.

The necks on these things are superb. I think better than my Squier standard.

But that's all going !!!

Here is a quick before and after, still waiting in upgraded tremolo and tuners hence no strings

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After fret level and polish

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And with deluxe knobs

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Looks good! So tone for neck and middle, tone for bridge, and a 10k resistor to dampen your humbucker splits? That sounds pretty user friendly.

One of the things I learned recently about frets is that crowning them between the level and fine sand keeps the peak of the fret in the center where it's supposed to be and makes the intonation more precise.

I'd also be interested if you notice anything about the basswood. My strats are your standard alder body, maple neck and rosewood board, they sound pretty good to me. The only wood I object to so far is a maple fretboard or body/top.

Edit: I'm going to change to a higher tone cap on my lp set up for jazz with just a jazz in the neck, a volume, and tone. I think I might want to try a resistor too. Where do I put it? Between the volume and jack?
 
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Not quite, tone fit neck and bridge and separate tone for middle. That's the thing with HSH even split the humbuckers aren't quite as bright as the single coil even with no resistor.

I got 0.015uF caps in guitar with APH1s and in my firebird with OBL mini-hums.

Are you coil splitting with the resistor? Instead of using a wire from the pull terminal to ground on the push pull I use the small resistor. Normally 4.7 works but these humbuckers are single coil voiced already so even with 4.7 they sounded a bit thin. Hoping 10k mimics the sweet spot I had in the dial a split.




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Clint 55 said:
Looks good! So tone for neck and middle, tone for bridge, and a 10k resistor to dampen your humbucker splits? That sounds pretty user friendly.

One of the things I learned recently about frets is that crowning them between the level and fine sand keeps the peak of the fret in the center where it's supposed to be and makes the intonation more precise.

I'd also be interested if you notice anything about the basswood. My strats are your standard alder body, maple neck and rosewood board, they sound pretty good to me. The only wood I object to so far is a maple fretboard or body/top.

Edit: I'm going to change to a higher tone cap on my lp set up for jazz with just a jazz in the neck, a volume, and tone. I think I might want to try a resistor too. Where do I put it? Between the volume and jack?
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That's how I levelled on this I levelled crowned, did a finer level then polished.


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I'm sticking with series only. I'm looking to broaden the sweet spot on my tone knob. Basically right now that sweet spot is between 1 and 2 haha. With all 250k pots and a .047uf cap. I'll probably try a .1uf cap but I haven't tried a resistor except for in a treble bleed so I may as well.
 
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Clint 55 said:
I'm sticking with series only. I'm looking to broaden the sweet spot on my tone knob. Basically right now that sweet spot is between 1 and 2 haha. With all 250k pots and a .047uf cap. I'll probably try a .1uf cap but I haven't tried a resistor except for in a treble bleed so I may as well.
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Adding a resistor In parallel to the cap will be like a bump stop for the tone pot so it does actually fully roll back.

Adding a resistor in series with the cap will cut the bass a bit so you basically get focussed mid range.


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