HSS Strat pickup issue

[Philr228]

Hi All,
New member here so go easy on me if this has already been asked and answered somewhere.
I've recently fitted a 59/Custom Hybrid Trembucker to my 60s 2004 Strat, the single coils are the middle and neck from an original Texas Special set (and i love them). All works great with a 5 way superswitch, but the split bridge and middle is out of phase.
As the split specifically selects the slug coil of the 59/Custom pickup (with a dc resitance of 7kOhm - this matchs my old Texas Special bridge pickup) with the RWRP middle pickup I just want an in phase output. Can I just flip the magnet in the 59/Custom to resolve this issue? Or, do I need to swap wires too? Or, swap the output wiring of the two Texas Special single coils?
Sketch attached to help!
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
Phil in the UK

 

[Artie]

If you're comfortable flipping the mag, that should do it. You want to leave the wires alone, to maintain the active slug coil. But wait for a second opinion. It's early Sat. morning.

 

[Philr228]

Hey ArtieToo,
Thanks for your comment confirming that mag flip, that's what I needed! Don't want to mess with the wiring unless I have to, the humbucker and slug selection will work as I intended if I just flip I assumed, I was just unsure that wiring wasn't required too. Yes, I'll wait incase I get more responses before doing the flip and happy to wait a while yet and get it right
Thank you so much though for your reply
Phil

 

[Artie]

You're welcome, but no cheer just yet. You didn't mention, or it wasn't clear . . . is the bridge split, with the middle noiseless? The polarity, and hum-cancelling, are two different issues. Flipping the mag will solve the phase issue, but has nothing to do with the noise issue. That will require a rewire. (Only if it's noisy now.) Is it?

 

[Philr228]

When I tried the split, the noticeable thing was the phase difference, it wasn't apparent that there was any additional noise i.e. hum at all. I'll try it tomorrow now to be sure ( it's quarter to 1 in the morning right now! Fingers crossed, I just have the phase issue. I'll report back.
Thanks again ArtieToo.

 

[Artie]

Yeah, if you could, play it a bit in that #2 B-split/M position, to see if there's hum. If there is, here's the preview of what needs to be done. (It's not terrible.)

You'd leave the mag alone, rewire the bridge pup so that:

White is the hot output.
Red & bare get grounded.
Black & green solder together, and then go where the red/white is now.

That's basically it.

 

[Philr228]

I did try it split and in a noisy gig environment and I can't say it seemed noisy at all, just week and thin. Thanks for your wiring recommendation, I'm tempted to try this first, but won't likely change the phase issue, or am I wrong? The mag swap, I get, as it will sort the polarity issue which my head and ears tell me is the problem.
Thanks again for your help and patience ArtieToo

 

[Artie]

No prob man. So, basically, if it's out-of-phase, and quiet, you do the mag flip, and leave the wiring alone. I'm assuming you did standard Duncan black hot to switch, red & white soldered together and to the 5-way "split" part. Then green & bare to ground.

If it's OOP, and noisy, you'd do the wiring like in my post #6, and leave the mag alone.

 

[Philr228]

Yes, standard Duncan wiring as you outline. I'll do a few more tests in the next few days and take it from there and report back. Mag flipping seems most likely. Thank you again for you help, I'll let you know the outcome.

 

[Philr228]

Hi again. Well, I said I'd report back and after testing I flipped the magnet and can tell you everything is now in phase in position #2 and humbucking. Sounds pretty much like a Strat in that position using the slug coil and huge in the humbucker position, I'm gonna love playing this as the Strat itself has always sounded so good, despite my reluctance to routing the body to remove just enough alder to fit the humbucker.
Thanks again ArtieToo

 

[Artie]

Cool. Glad you got it sorted. Enjoy.