I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

[blakejcan]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

I have another question here as I am about ready to actually do this after a long glue cleaning & sanding process.

I am going to use one huge piece of tolex and wrap it around the whole cab so I only have one seam. All the videos I have seen for this process are for straight cabs. Mine is a slant cab.

I am going to follow the same wrap process but I am curious if I should do something different when I hit the angled corner on the front of the cab. The slant portion basically. Do I fold it over there or make an extra cut?

I found my answer to this by asking the scumback speaker guy. Here it is for anyone else

You wrap the tolex on the front edge and sides. When you get to the inside edge of the front slant angle (at the corner in the middle of the sides) you cut from the inside edge horizontally. Then you fold the top and bottom over and cut it again through both pieces at the same time. The edges of the tolex will line up to butt up against each other.

 

[bygone_tones]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

You should not cut the tolex at the front angle. Look at any Marshall cab they stretch it over. Cutting it looks amateur. Fine for beginners but if you have a bit of experience and want good results you should be stretching it there.

Tolexing a cab is a skilled job that takes practise. You are very unlikelyto achieve perfection on your first attempt.

 

[blakejcan]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

You should not cut the tolex at the front angle. Look at any Marshall cab they stretch it over. Cutting it looks amateur. Fine for beginners but if you have a bit of experience and want good results you should be stretching it there.

Tolexing a cab is a skilled job that takes practise. You are very unlikelyto achieve perfection on your first attempt.

Thanks for the inspiring words

 

[bygone_tones]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

Thanks for the inspiring words

hint of sarcasm lol. just telling it like it is. I would recommend practising on a few junk cabs first if you can. The tolex needs to be slightly warm so that it stretches, you can use a hairdryer or a heatgun. Then just stretch it over the bend very slighty, being careful not to get any ripples in the tolex. Stretching it too much will also result in ripples. Like I said it is a skill and takes practise, but is not mission impossible. Should look like this:

If you want to cut it instead you can do that too, but I think it looks amateur personally.

 

[blakejcan]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

haha thanks.

From what I can see in your pics it totally makes sense. It looks like you are using separate sheets of tolex. One to wrap each side. In that case it make sense to pull it tight.

I am using one giant sheet of tolex to wrap the whole thing. I've lined it up a bit by hand doing test runs and from what I can tell, when you use one big sheet and pull it up on the side w/ the angle you will develop a bit of bunching.

Either you can do as described above and cut the fold at the apex of the slant, mash the seams together and try and hide it that way

OR

Pull it tight over the front side-angled portion and you'll end up with some bunching/excess up at the top of the cab.

thanks for the help. I think I just need to do it and figure it out

 

[blakejcan]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

I just finished putting on all the tolex. Looks pretty good for my first time. Not perfect for sure but very acceptable. It passes the "solid from 10 feet away test" which is enough for me for this project.

Now I have a very silly yet unforeseen problem. I am going to rivet back in the corners, skid plates and screw in the back panel. This should be the easy part and take no time at all.

Only..........all the rivet & screw holes are now covered in tolex. Not so bad for the corners which you can line up and then find but for the back panel it is basically a total crapshoot. Just looking at pics of where I think they should be and slowly poking around on the tolex. I'd have thought that you could see a depression in the tolex where a hole would be hiding but these holes are so small and the tolex is so thick that you can't see a thing. Even if you do stumble across one it takes a fair amount or pressure to puncture the tolex.

Silly problem but if anyone has a fix that'd be awesome.

 

[bygone_tones]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

I just finished putting on all the tolex. Looks pretty good for my first time. Not perfect for sure but very acceptable. It passes the "solid from 10 feet away test" which is enough for me for this project.

Now I have a very silly yet unforeseen problem. I am going to rivet back in the corners, skid plates and screw in the back panel. This should be the easy part and take no time at all.

Only..........all the rivet & screw holes are now covered in tolex. Not so bad for the corners which you can line up and then find but for the back panel it is basically a total crapshoot. Just looking at pics of where I think they should be and slowly poking around on the tolex. I'd have thought that you could see a depression in the tolex where a hole would be hiding but these holes are so small and the tolex is so thick that you can't see a thing. Even if you do stumble across one it takes a fair amount or pressure to puncture the tolex.

Silly problem but if anyone has a fix that'd be awesome.

Post some photos.

Yeah that is an easy mistake to make with the back panel. You basically have to get something like a dart or a nail and poke around until you see the tolex give way to the hole, and then poke it through to pierce the tolex. The poking around part will not damage the tolex.

Obviously there is going to be a hole at each corner, which is a good place to start. Then the other holes will be evenly spaced. There are 5 holes along each edge (including the corners). 16 holes in total. So get the corners first and then there are three more on each edge.

 

[blakejcan]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

that's about what I'm doing. It's just a bit tedious.

Still have to do the piping.

Only other issue is the replacement corners I bought don't seem to match up to the existing holes. Since this is a Mode 4 cab it is a little bigger than most and I'm wondering if the corners are as well. I have the old ones and they are for sure slightly bigger. I might have to rehab them a bit or just fit the new ones. Only bummer is I already poked a hole in the cab for the corners.

I'll post some photos later

 

[blakejcan]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

Put the piping, handles on. Speakers in and wired up. Just have to finish the corners and find those pesky holes hiding under the back panel and I'll be back in business

 

[bygone_tones]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

looks good to me. nice job on the grill, a lot of people cant seem to put them on straight. you just need to stretch the tolex a bit more on the corners to get it to sit flat on the wood and that will give you a nice seam there. takes a bit of practise though.

 

[blakejcan]

Re: I am refurbbing a Marshall cab and I have some questions

Thanks!

I'm putting corners on to hide those seams