I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

You're saying you don't believe me? I don't actually care. It happened. Period. Call me stupid? I don't care about that either... Peace

Yes. I'm saying I don't believe you.

Why does it even matter? It's like you're taking this whole thing personal. You're getting all Columbo on the thread like you're an investigator or something.

I'd be willing to bet that if he knew he bought a counterfeit JEM and meant to buy a counterfeit JEM, he wouldn't be posting about it. Everybody knows how much people frown down upon such things.

I'm not taking it personal. Just calling BS when I see it. The last part of your post is exactly why I'm calling BS. How do you not get reamed over buying a fake intentionally? Make a up a poor me I got duped with a fake story and play on other peoples sympathy instead of facing a mob with a wrath of anger.

IMO, the only duping going on here is the ones that are believing this crap.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

Yes. I'm saying I don't believe you.

And I'm pretty sure he could care less. He posted this thread solely at making fun of himself for getting himself into a potentially bad situation and now he's out of it with an amicable transaction with the original seller. He's happy, the original seller is happy... everybody is happy here... except for you. :scratchch
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

Yes. I'm saying I don't believe you.



I'm not taking it personal. Just calling BS when I see it. The last part of your post is exactly why I'm calling BS. How do you not get reamed over buying a fake intentionally? Make a up a poor me I got duped with a fake story and play on other peoples sympathy instead of facing a mob with a wrath of anger.

IMO, the only duping going on here is the ones that are believing this crap.

This is really funny. Now it's getting interesting. Now I actually have to prove that the Fake is Real!! Awesome!! I love the internet sometimes.
Listen man. I'll make a video. I'll put it on youtube. I'll show you EXACTLY what i was talking about in this thread, and exactly what's in these photographs. Then i'll play the guitar. Dude it's real and it happened.
Don't be mean mr mustard. wrathful mob and all....

And the notion that i would trade for a fake guitar on purpose is absurd.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

The last part of your post is exactly why I'm calling BS. How do you not get reamed over buying a fake intentionally? Make a up a poor me I got duped with a fake story and play on other peoples sympathy instead of facing a mob with a wrath of anger.

IMO, the only duping going on here is the ones that are believing this crap.
To me the way to not get reamed over buying a fake intenionally would be to not post about it. Surely no one would go out of their way to make up some cockamamy story just to say "hey, I bought a counterfeit guitar" and proceed to make themself out like they did something stupid. That completely makes absolutely no sense at all to me.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

How do you not get reamed over buying a fake intentionally? Make a up a poor me I got duped with a fake story and play on other peoples sympathy instead of facing a mob with a wrath of anger.

Or, you know ... don't mention it on a public forum at all, maybe?

I'm not understanding the motive for pretending you accidentally bought a fake guitar. Or the motive for accusing someone of pretending to buy a fake guitar, for that matter.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

I'm not understanding the motive for pretending you accidentally bought a fake guitar. Or the motive for accusing someone of pretending to buy a fake guitar, for that matter.
You're not the only one.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

I'm not questioning whether the transaction went down or not. I'm sure it did.

I think you knew it was fake when you got it. To be honest, I really don't care about that either. There's tons of Jem knockoffs out there. I don't really see this as any different than all those bodies and necks to make your own Jem on Ebay.

What I don't agree with is the "Oh look at me, I got screwed over" attention seeking post that came a long with it. You knew if you posted that you got a "fake" Jem intentionally, you'd get the verbal beating of a lifetime on here. It's happened with others before. Best way to avoid that is make it seem like you got the crappy end of the stick on it.

It would have came out eventually that you had it. In a picture or some crap like that later on and someone would have pointed it out. Might as well just put it out there and be done with it right. That way you get to post your NGD and have a nice little story to go with it. Those are the more memorable ones anyway right?

Just to be a little more realistic. Used Jems of that model go for $1300 to $1500 used and are over 2 grand new. Nobody is going to TRADE a real Jem for 2 old guitars that might be worth half the going the rate combined. I could see someone being in a hard spot and taking $800 cash for one, But not TRADE. Not when you'd have to find 2 or more transactions to get the cash out of them. That just does not make any sense to me and would have thrown up a red flag to me. Even if I didn't know anything about them.

Moving on to the obvious signs that it's a fake. OK, I agree that if you didn't know anything Ibanez guitars, those details could get by someone to some degree. Even the excitement blinders could cloud judgement. Not arguing that either. Most people, especially gear heads that frequent a forum like this know Jem's are expensive guitars. Mos of them also know Ibanez wouldn't use a $20 Floyd on a $2000 guitar. That's another big red flag.

But here's the catch. You're not a novice with shred style super strats and you've openly admitted that you own and have experience with an upper end Ibanez. So from personal experience, you should have seen the quality difference mainly the bridge and you still went ahead with the trade without even questioning it. Now Ibanez might be a lot of things, but inconsistent isn't one of them. Having that 2550 as a benchmark, you had to have seen some of those quality details not matching. Even at a glance. I just don't buy it. You knew that guitar was a fake and the story was so you didn't get chewed out on here for doing it.

So I stand by it whether it makes me unpopular around here or not. It wouldn't be the first time someone's called me an Ahole over something. Won't be the last. I'm sure I'll live.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

That's crazy. Franticrock has been here forever, and if he wanted attention, all he would have to do is post more videos of his playing. So in the spirit of this post, I'm going to post clips for him:





Nice that you were dealing with a decent guy.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

This isn't going to go anywhere. You guys believe him. I don't and stated my reasons for taking that stance. There is no good reason to even continuing on with this debate. It'll just get ugly and hateful.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

I think we need to change your gloss to Conspiracy Theoryologist.....lol
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

I think we need to change your gloss to Conspiracy Theoryologist.....lol

I do read the occasional conspiracy theory. Some are hilarious, some are probably scarily close to the truth! My new favorite theories are that this James Holmes guy from the Aurora shootings is a paid hitman for the UN and Democratic parties to rally support for gun control. I'm even pro gun and think that's absolutely ridiculous.

In this case, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Won't be the first time. Won't be the last time. It is what it is I suppose.
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

Um… what?
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

9Finger you are actually absolutely right. The way you described the situation is exactly how i already feel about myself. It's absurd. I do know my guitar parts and pickups. And i am at disbelief that this actually happened. The reason it happened is I haven't been playing guitar for a long long time, and suddenly decided to do a guitar trade out of the blue. That and my lady was waiting for me to have dinner, PLUS i trusted the guy because i got a good vibe from him. That's all. You are absolutely right that you can always sell a real JEM for $800 like a HOT CAKE to ANYONE who remotely knows what a JEM is or who is Steve Vai. But believe me, 9finger, there are times and situations in which you act irrationally and this was one of them. Your disbelief just confirms to me how absurd it was. Anyway, its cool if you think i'm some kind of liar trying to get attention by posting on a forum... Most of the guys here don't think that, and I LOVE THIS PLACE for that exact reason. If i posted this on the UltimateGuitar forum, i would get every known swear word in the english dictionary tattoed on my face :) :) :) Peace man :beerchug:
 
Re: I can't believe it. Bought a fake JEM. God I'm REALLY STUPID

Mkay...

Anyways! **** a JEM dude, that Kramer is pure sex!

Now that you have her back, NEVER let her go!
 
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