beaubrummels
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My experience with 24 frets is my experience with 24 frets. What exactly are you saying is BS?
I Don't Need 24 Frets
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My experience with 24 frets is my experience with 24 frets. What exactly are you saying is BS?
Phantasmagoria
watch where you point that sabre
Why yes....yes I do
I think Kramersteen made a bunch of them too (30 or more frets)..
In fact the guy who sold me this one said there was an earlier MIJ ($$$) Ibanez (Prestige?) version of this axe w/ 30 frets too..did'nt know that..
Edit: Found one on reverb..
https://reverb.com/item/1340060-iban...-made-in-japan
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People often have their pickups too close to the strings and it chokes the sustain on the high frets.
Neck pickup cleans sound better on a 22. Other than for nice warm cleans it is totally debatable IMO.
Personally I don't care. It wouldn't be a factor in choosing a specific guitar or not.
Neck pickup cleans sound better on a 22. Other than for nice warm cleans it is totally debatable IMO.
Personally I don't care. It wouldn't be a factor in choosing a specific guitar or not.
:laugh2: Seriously? How about starting with your initial comment which I quoted.
I'm not going to say anything bad about anyone who wants or likes more than 22 frets, I'm just not one of those. I, personally, rarely play anything above the 17th fret so I don't need them. And I just don't like the sound/tone/whatever of those high fretted notes. I'd rather bend a string to get up high. I'm also not really bothered by the tone of the neck pickup needing to be placed closer to the bridge in a 24+ fret guitar...sometimes you just need to get a beefier neck pup to compensate. No big deal. I guess ideally pups should be placed at the nodes to get the best tones or to get that Strat quack, but since I have so many guitars I can choose whatever one I need to get whatever sound I need...I don't need just a single guitar to do everything. Don't get me wrong, however, I DO like lots of versatility in guitars. One trick ponies don't live in my barn.
Spaghetti Bolo
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I like neck humbuckers in both 22 and 24 fret guitars. Also strat middle. Tele neck too.
beaubrummels
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You're saying my comment about 'I only play 24 when working with temperamental singers who keep changing the key. It just doesn't sound good that high. There's no sustain. The amp and effects are making more of the note.' is B.S.? Right, man. It never happened. And only you could know, sitting anonymously on the other end of the Internet, wouldn't you?
Since when does a note played have more or less amp or effect used impact on said note? By your theory all low notes are far more "pure" than high notes. The Low notes have less amp and less effect. What about notes in the middle of the fret board? Do they have equal amounts of amp and effect? :lmao:
Additionally, when does 2 frets reel in a temperamental singer who is always changing keys? Those last two frets seem pretty magical and powerful. I had no idea two frets had that much power and that an amp and or effect(s) knew when and how much to insert themselves into the sound based on where you are playing on the fret board.
If that is what you are actually saying, then yes, I call BS on you and your buddy Securb (who liked your comment so he clearly agrees). :laugh2:
LLL
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I typically will use an accordion paired with a bouzouki in the mix to reel in a singer who hasn't quite reached puberty.
beaubrummels
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When fretting a string up around 2 octaves, the tension of the string coupled with it's thickness relative to the available length makes it less able to vibrate and freely sustain the way lower notes are. It's not suddenly at the 24th fret, but you lose sustain on fretted notes as you gradually move up the neck. Anyone who has played the length of the neck has experienced that.
I probably should have said the amp and effects are making more of the sustain, because IME in order to get sustain out of the highest frets, it takes more distortion and compression to get notes up at the upper frets to appear to sustain longer.
When singers change the keys, I still have to play the same lines that are in the song, so it helps having more frets on the neck to work with so I can still play the lead lines without a phrase running off the neck. For me, that's the time having 24 frets has proven helpful. If it's B.S. to you, perhaps you haven't had enough experience playing with other people. And I have no control over who likes a comment. That has nothing to do with me.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Do you want to comment on the rest of the posts I liked this week or is this one enough?
Obsessive Compulsive
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Since when does a note played, or amp or effect used, have more or less impact on said note?
Fixed.
Just the pedestrian ones...when I have time....and when I care enough and need a good laugh. :7: :10:
Lighten up sugar! :banana:
You summed it all up when you reverted to "I probably should have said."
So like I said, amp and effect are the same throughout the fret board.
Carry On! :banana:
Thanks! :beerchug:
I was trying to talk in circles and riddles like he was. :wave:
LLL
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Well, there's the problem right there.
beaubrummels
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Ah, so YOU are the Webster's dictionary/thesaurus/grammar police for this forum. Good to know.
Technically yes, but in practice, they do interact - e.g. if you hit a dead spot on a neck, you aren't going to get the same distortion level out of your pedal or amp, even though, technically, the distortion level was set constant on the amp/pedal. But it appears you've just decided to be a jerk about words, which isn't really changing anything or helping anyone.
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LLL
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Take it outside. This is a joke thread and you're harshing the mellow, dude.
