I dont understand full stacks

[some_dude]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

Around here 4x12s are still the standard. Unless you play in old guy blues/rock bands, in which case 2x12s are the standard.

I don't think the local venues were given the memo that said rock music was now background music, nor have most of them invested half their years profits into these mega PA systems y'all seem to be playing through...

 

[PVFan]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

where?

 

[some_dude]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

where?

In the middle of nowhere, Manitoba.

It's sort of like North Dakota... only more north and with less people.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

. . . i should sig this.

 

[Thunder]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

At one time stacks were popular for large venues and volume. And some times when many were used it was basically for visual purposes and maybe only one or two were actually being used. With todays sound systems you could get away with using one 4x12 or even 2x12 cab. However, there is something special about the sound of two 4x12 cabs IMHO!:bigthumb:

 

[astrozombie]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

i have this awesome memory of watching a vid where eddie did this, and right after he jumped off, he turned around and watched the wall of speakers swing back and fowards for a tiny bit and then he kept playing.

I played a 100 watt marshall jcm into a 3/4 stack one.

sounded GODLY

but then again, so did my 1x12 HRDx, so

 

[ksmith63]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

^ how many of those were hooked up!

 

[Stef]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

I'm a half-stack warrior!

 

[drpietrzak]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

In the middle of nowhere, Manitoba.

It's sort of like North Dakota... only more north and with less people.

South Dakota is pretty close at 9.9 people per square mile with ND at 9.3 per sm. Southern Siberia sorta thing

 

[JOLLY]

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^ how many of those were hooked up!

I'm going to say every one of them. I saw them that year, and was on the front row right in front of Eddie. I could hardly hear for almost two days after the concert.

 

[ksmith63]

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I'm going to say every one of them. I saw them that year, and was on the front row right in front of Eddie. I could hardly hear for almost two days after the concert.

Nowadays it seems like most of the bands with walls of amps just use fakes. This makes me sad.

 

[some_dude]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

South Dakota is pretty close at 9.9 people per square mile with ND at 9.3 per sm. Southern Siberia sorta thing

Manitoba is 5.5 / sq mi.

 

[drpietrzak]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

And you are farther North ...

 

[Jessie's ghost]

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Full stacks are awesome, but I'm only 5'11". I can't be bothered to lift my hand above shoulder height when I need to tweak a treble knob. And on a TSL100, that's a lot.

 

[Van Noord]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

In the middle of nowhere, Manitoba.

It's sort of like North Dakota... only more north and with less people.

I'm from Manitoba too...

 

[TheProphet]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

You Moosebrains always think you're in the middle of nowhere. Feh, stick someone between Saskatchewan and the rear end of Ontario and all of a sudden they become a bunch of Wild Bill McGullochs.

 

[Van Noord]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

Only place I'm in the middle of is the continent. Literally.
8 hours to Regina, 8 hours to Minneapolis, 8 hours to Thunder Bay.
No big deal.

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

In the middle of nowhere, Manitoba.

It's sort of like North Dakota... only more north and with less people.

There's more people in Winnipeg alone than all of North Dakota combined. You can guess where I am.

And yeah, ever bar I've played in this city has a full on PA system where your amp is miced. In my experience, guys who drag full stacks onto the stage to play their 45 minute set in these clubs can barely fit their own ego through the door. The second they start playing they're louder than their entire band and everyone in the crowd goes running for the back of the room. It's fun to grab the popcorn, sit back, and watch a train wreck unfold.

Unless you're playing an arena or large outdoor stage, a full stack is complete overkill.

 

[some_dude]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

There's more people in Winnipeg alone than all of North Dakota combined. You can guess where I am.

My apologies.

ND has half the population at 1/7th the land mass... to me, that means that as I drive around ND, I see more people than I do in MB.

And yeah, ever bar I've played in this city has a full on PA system where your amp is miced. In my experience, guys who drag full stacks onto the stage to play their 45 minute set in these clubs can barely fit their own ego through the door. The second they start playing they're louder than their entire band and everyone in the crowd goes running for the back of the room. It's fun to grab the popcorn, sit back, and watch a train wreck unfold.

Unless you're playing an arena or large outdoor stage, a full stack is complete overkill.

If you're in Winnipeg, then I'm a few hours west of you... which is the rural part of Manitoba, just in case you've never been outside the city....

And lastly, I said 4x12s are still the standard for guys that aren't playing old guy/blues rock... not fullstacks.

That said, I would totally rock a fullstack anyway if it suited the context of the band/gig.

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

Re: I dont understand full stacks

If you're in Winnipeg, then I'm a few hours west of you... which is the rural part of Manitoba, just in case you've never been outside the city....

And lastly, I said 4x12s are still the standard for guys that aren't playing old guy/blues rock... not fullstacks.

That said, I would totally rock a fullstack anyway if it suited the context of the band/gig.

I have been outside the city. I've played in Dauphin, in fact. Nice to know I have a few neighbors on this board.

Maybe 412 is the standard in your area, but in the city, I'd be hard pressed to call anything "standard". I see the entire spectrum of rigs in just about every application - from guys who show up asking the sound man where they can plug in their POD, to guys who need two helpers and a trailer to get their rig to and from the gig.

And yeah, the right context is key. You tend to see the full stacks show up at clubs like The Zoo (on Osborne) - where there is absolutely zero need for it given the power of that front of house system. If you were playing say, an open air outdoor event to a crowd then yeah, I could see a full stack being the right tool for the job. If you show up to a coffee house with one, then you're just a tool.

FWIW, I think the reason you see more older players bringing their 212 cabs instead of their 412 or larger setups is because as you age and gain experience, the gap in your mind between what you need and what you think you need gets smaller. At least, that's what I'm finding as I get older.