I get it now. Fender content.

That90'sGuy

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It's been years since I've played through one, but I'm enjoying a '71 Vibrolux Reverb right now. Mine was actually passed down to me by my grandfather who passed away when I was pretty young (probably about 20 years ago). It's been in rough shape and didn't really sound quite right. The speakers would always break up in a nasty way and there was a lot of random noise and as a kid I wanted something with more gain (the pedals I used never sounded right with it).

I finally decided about a year ago to go with smaller wattage amps. I've been liking my Vox AC-15 a lot and decided that rather than buying new stuff, I was going to work on fixing up the old amp in memory of my grandfather. This amp had some issues, I found the pilot light had burned out and after a power tube failed on me the amp stopped working. I did some research on a few different amp techs and found a very experienced guy less than a half an hour away from me.

He found a few frightening things. The tech that worked on the amp in the 90s changed the fuse to a 20 amp automotive fuse (instead of the 2 amp slo-blo fuse that should have been in there). The power tube failure had taken out the filter caps and the rectifier tube had gone bad. This new tech had gotten the filter caps replaced and replaced a few bias filter supply caps that tend to go bad, but the good news was that the guy told me all the parts were original for that amp. Even better news was the fact that the transformers and other circuitry was still in good operating condition. After about a week he had the amp back and working. I went to Radio Shack and picked up some 2 amp slo-blo fuses just in case and I've been playing the crap out of it and it's been sounding great.

I forgot how much fun it is to play almost completely clean. There's a round and soft tone that's addicting to this Vibrolux Reverb and with it turned up it gets just hot enough to get some slight hair to the notes. The Vox, in contrast, is a much more aggressive amp that has a lot more gain to it and that's a fun one to rock out with, but I like playing a lot of jazz and funk flavored stuff on the VR. The Vox AC-15 taught me a thing or two about using single coils in the hotter inputs and using humbuckers in the lower gain inputs and I've found that works well with the Fender as well. I thought having 2 amps that are lower wattage with great clean bases would be redundant, but I'm finding material that sounds right with the chime from the Vox and material that sounds right with the shimmer and warmth of the Fender.

So, after all these years, I get why so many people love Fenders and now that I have one repaired and maintained the right way, I kinda understand the appeal of the early silverface amps. I don't think it's ever going to be a super desirable amp (since it's not a brown or blackface), but I feel pretty fortunate to have an amp that's regarded as one of the better balanced ones in Fender's history. I think my grandfather would be pretty happy to see this thing being put to use because music was such an important part of his life and he used the amp a fair amount in his later years (he actually got it in a trade for an original Gretsch White Falcon that he used to own).

I've got some new speakers on the way for it and I'll eventually have a few more preamp tubes changed out for fun. I never paid much attention to it before given its operating condition, but I'm liking it more and more now and I think it's a great writing tool.
 
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There overall sonic footprint of a BF/SF Fender is not my bag these days but it is a damn good sound!

Get that bad boy up to speed and make yer grandfather proud!!!

What speakers you getting???
 
Re: I get it now. Fender content.

There overall sonic footprint of a BF/SF Fender is not my bag these days but it is a damn good sound!

Get that bad boy up to speed and make yer grandfather proud!!!

What speakers you getting???

I had some Celestion G10L-35s in there that were an improvement over the original CTS speakers (I actually bought them off of PUCKBOY99 on here!), but I'm eagerly anticipating a set of WGS G10C/S. Opinions seem to be all over the place in terms of speakers, but the G10C got some rave reviews and the new /S version seems to be designed to be a bit warmer with a smoother breakup which would (hopefully) make them sound closer to the alnico counterparts without the hefty price tag. Depending on the efficiency, I may actually stick with just 1 speaker in there (I'm doing that right now with the G10L-35 and it's kinda fun when it breaks up around "7-8" on the volume dial, that never happened with 2 speakers). The price is right and hopefully this will be the speaker that keeps the bass nice and tight (I keep the bass around "2" currently).


It's just fun to try different things musically. I still don't consider myself an "American" fan as much as a "British" person, but I have a new found appreciation for it and I'm looking forward to doing some recording with it :)
 
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Interesting.

You do know that with just one speaker the impedance is "wrong"?

It'll be fine as long as everything else is right but the way you're running it you're actually loosing punch.

If you've never tried them you should try some good Webers in there...a pair of 10A125's in that amp would be killer!
 
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I grimaced when I saw your original post, because posts that long usually aren't worth the read. Let me say I am glad I was horribly mistaken. Great post, and great story. I've got a couple of things of my grandfather's that are really cool. One of them is his Veteran of Foreign Wars medal, and the other is a tankard he was given after finishing a project in the North Sea. The engraving reads, "There's a right way, there's a wrong way, and there's Bud's way." That would probably mean a lot more if you knew him.
 
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Interesting.

You do know that with just one speaker the impedance is "wrong"?

It'll be fine as long as everything else is right but the way you're running it you're actually loosing punch.

If you've never tried them you should try some good Webers in there...a pair of 10A125's in that amp would be killer!

Yep, I know it's supposed to see a 4 ohm output, but after reading that it was safe to try 8 and 16 ohm speakers with it, I played around with it just to check it out. I haven't really noticed any negative side effects from having an 8 ohm load on it and it seems to be as punchy as when I had 2 8 ohm speakers in parallel, it's just that there's more headroom and it didn't breakup as nice. If you really want to hear something crazy, try running a Bogner 4x12 cabinet through the Fender... that's some serious thump :D

I like alnico speakers and was looking at the 10A125, but I read that there wasn't much headroom and I didn't care for the Silver Bell/Blue Dog combination I had years ago (they were kinda harsh and that drove me to become a pretty die hard Celestion guy). The 10A125 are probably much better speakers than their ceramic offerings. The price for the 10A125 does look a lot better than the WGS G10A, that's for sure. The WGS stuff has gotten a lot of praise though, so I'm hoping I'll like the sound enough to settle on them (kinda like how I felt the Celestion Blue was the perfect match for my Vox).
 
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I grimaced when I saw your original post, because posts that long usually aren't worth the read. Let me say I am glad I was horribly mistaken. Great post, and great story. I've got a couple of things of my grandfather's that are really cool. One of them is his Veteran of Foreign Wars medal, and the other is a tankard he was given after finishing a project in the North Sea. The engraving reads, "There's a right way, there's a wrong way, and there's Bud's way." That would probably mean a lot more if you knew him.

Hehe... sorry for being so long-winded :p I'm glad to hear you have some cool stuff to remember your grandfather by though :)
 
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Just as a side note it is NOT ok to run that amp with a 16 ohm load...not even close.

That amp wants to see 4 ohms and you can mismatch up to 100% being 8 ohms or even 2 but a 200% mismatch WILL cook the output tranny.
 
Re: I get it now. Fender content.

Just as a side note it is NOT ok to run that amp with a 16 ohm load...not even close.

That amp wants to see 4 ohms and you can mismatch up to 100% being 8 ohms or even 2 but a 200% mismatch WILL cook the output tranny.

Thanks for the advice, I kinda figure it would be a bad practice. I guess it's better to have more resistance than less though. I could only imagine what a 2 ohm output would do to an amplifier.
 
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Thanks for the advice, I kinda figure it would be a bad practice. I guess it's better to have more resistance than less though. I could only imagine what a 2 ohm output would do to an amplifier.

2 ohms on a VR is fine...8 ohms is fine and the preferred 4 ohms is fine but anything less than 2 and more than 8 is a bad idea.
 
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Cool! While mine is in no way vintage spec, I've got a modern CVR and there's just something about the 2x10's that gives such a focused and tight sound. I love mine, glad you're enjoying a Vibrolux too!
 
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There aint NUTTIN' quite as sweet as a Vibrolux Reverb. It is the one amp I have held onto all these years of trading!
 
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cool amp! good read.
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Cool! While mine is in no way vintage spec, I've got a modern CVR and there's just something about the 2x10's that gives such a focused and tight sound. I love mine, glad you're enjoying a Vibrolux too!

I wasn't sure myself if I was really a 10'' speaker fan (I'm so used to 12'' speakers), but there's certainly a cool place for them. I bet your CVR sounds great!

There aint NUTTIN' quite as sweet as a Vibrolux Reverb. It is the one amp I have held onto all these years of trading!

I've often wondered if you sold off yours (I know you went through a lot of gear at one point). You had yours blackfaced, right? Mine was left stock (which, since it's a '71 probably isn't too far off from the values they used for the blackface era anyhow since it's almost considered a "drip edge" model). Any tube recommendations? I admit I had bought some GT 6L6's for it from a local vendor just to try to get the amp up and running, but I'd be interested in hearing what you've found works well. :) Right now I think I'm running a mix of random stuff, some Sovtek I think I had pulled out of a Vox and a NOS Phillips in one of the 12ax7a slots I'm pretty sure.
 
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